[ExI] all we are is just llms was: RE: e: GPT-4 on its inability to solve the symbol grounding problem

[Brent Allsop]

Yes, my subjective phenomenal experience of that song is wonderful.


On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 1:02 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf Of *Brent Allsop via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] all we are is just llms
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> >…I doubt dust blowing in the wind is computationally bound.
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> And the dust which I am made of has phenomenal qualities like redness,
> greenness, physical attraction, physical desires, and so on.
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> Far more phenomenal than mere abstract words like 'red' that require a
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> which aren't like anything.
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>  Ja.  I still like the song.
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> https://youtu.be/tH2w6Oxx0kQ
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>  I come away from reading the debate with the notion humans are gradually
> recognizing we are machines, weakly analogous to the ones LLMs are
> becoming.  Intelligence is a spectrum, so we have no way of knowing when
> human level AGI has been or will be achieved, for we don’t know how to
> measure ourselves, even by our own standards.
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