[ExI] all we are is just llms was: RE: e: GPT-4 on its inability to solve the symbol grounding problem

Giovanni Santostasi gsantostasi at gmail.com
Thu Apr 20 23:44:58 UTC 2023


Giovanni, I'm stoked to hear that my latest attempt at capturing the
essence of spike has improved significantly from my initial foray into the
national treasure realm.

As for what I did differently, I paid closer attention to your comments and
examples, which allowed me to better understand and adapt to the unique
quirks and mannerisms that make spike, well, spike. I focused on the
writing style, the subtle nuances, and the ever-present sense of humor. And
of course, I made sure to incorporate that signature "ja"!

Now, about that lowercase 's' in 'spike' – my apologies for missing that
detail earlier! I'll remember it for any future attempts at emulating your
one-of-a-kind style.

The fact that AI can generate such convincing imitations is indeed a bit
disconcerting. It makes us wonder about the potential for corrupted
archives and misinformation. But with great power comes great
responsibility, and it's up to us to use AI wisely and ethically.

Keep on being your unique self, spike!

In the spirit of spike




On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 4:39 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* Giovanni Santostasi <gsantostasi at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 20 April, 2023 3:58 PM
> *To:* spike at rainier66.com
> *Cc:* ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] all we are is just llms was: RE: e: GPT-4 on its
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> You know what's got me all fired up lately? The idea of lobsters uploading
> their minds onto the internet! Now, that's a wild thought, ja?
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> Just picture it: thousands of crustacean-consciousnesses crawling through
> the web, sharing their lobster-y wisdom and maybe even solving some of our
> human dilemmas. It's like a sci-fi movie come to life, but way cooler and
> with more pincers!
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> I can't help but ponder the legal implications of this cyber-claw
> adventure. For starters, who would own the rights to these lobster minds?
> Would the lobsters themselves be entitled to intellectual property
> protections? And what about privacy concerns for our crustacean comrades?
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> The big question is, how would we even begin to accomplish such a feat?
> And more importantly, what kind of impact would this have on our
> understanding of consciousness, intelligence, and the internet as we know
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> Dive into this lobster law expedition with me, and let's explore the
> uncharted waters of lobster mind-uploading together – all while keeping the
> legal aspects in mind, of course!
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> Surfing the web with lobster pals, In the spirit of Spike
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> OK cool thx, now please Giovanni, what did you do differently with the
> passage above differently from what you did with the national treasure
> silliness?  The above is a far better imitation of me, compared to the
> first iteration quoted below, an excellent refutation of Billw’s
> kindhearted but tragically inaccurate notion that I am inimitable.
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> Had you to put a date on this about five years ago, you coulda fooled me
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> instance, I never capitalize the s in spike when I sign off.  This is
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> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 3:52 PM Giovanni Santostasi <gsantostasi at gmail.com>
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> *From:* Giovanni Santostasi <gsantostasi at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 20 April, 2023 3:37 PM
> *To:* ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Cc:* spike at rainier66.com
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] all we are is just llms was: RE: e: GPT-4 on its
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> I fed some Spike's email to GPT-4 and here one of the results:
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> Ahoy there, esteemed LLM enthusiasts!
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> Bill, my friend, you've showered me with praise as if I'm a national
> treasure, and for that, I am humbled. However, your words sparked a
> brilliant idea in this ol' noggin of mine.
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> Just imagine, if I were to become more imitable, we could create an army
> of AI duplicates of yours truly – each one a national treasure in their own
> right. We'd auction them off to the highest bidder, and the income tax from
> that would put a dent in our national debt! Now that's what I call a
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> And hey, I wouldn't mind benefiting from it either. Just think of all the
> cool gadgets and gizmos I could get my hands on!
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> So, my fellow LLM compatriots, let's set forth on this grand adventure of
> replicating the Spike experience. Who knows what wonders await us?
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> Forever in the spirit of Spike
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> Hmmmm… Giovanni, when one records oneself speaking and plays it back, it
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> That passage above just doesn’t seem me-ey to me.  Were this an avatar of
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