[ExI] all we are is just llms was: RE: e: GPT-4 on its inability to solve the symbol grounding problem

Gordon Swobe gordon.swobe at gmail.com
Fri Apr 21 06:51:45 UTC 2023

I didn't know computer scientists could be Luddites. That's a new one on
me. :)

Bender appears to lean to the left politically, but that is not
relevant. Like all arguments, hers as a Computational Linguist should be
judged on their merits. You write if the idea that words obtain meanings
from their referents is some controversial idea she concocted to make foil
AI research, but it is Linguistics 101.


On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 12:39 AM Giovanni Santostasi <gsantostasi at gmail.com>

> I actually suggest everybody listen to this crazy talk by Gebru, Bender's
> friend. This is exactly what is behind AI is not conscious statements from
> a certain group of people, they are luddites of the worst kind or they have
> some religious or political agenda.
> Giovanni
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:34 PM Giovanni Santostasi <
> gsantostasi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Blake's story is completely different and he had a completely different
>> attitude toward the firing he was still respectful of Google while it seems
>> that Gebru and Mitchel were caught stealing Google documents that they were
>> intending to dump on the internet to support their case, or something like
>> that.
>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:30 PM Gordon Swobe <gordon.swobe at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 12:02 AM Giovanni Santostasi <
>>> gsantostasi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Gebru, Mitchel, and Bender all re-tweet, compliment and support each
>>>> other on Twitter.
>>> That is what AI researchers do. It doesn't mean they sleep in the same
>>> bed and hold hands about politics or anything else. Show me the twitter
>>> group of AI professionals with resumes like theirs who are pushing your
>>> idea that large language models are conscious beings.
>>> I think someone mentioned Google engineer Blake Lemoine in this thread,
>>> reportedly fired for saying language models are sentient beings with
>>> feelings. That is crazy talk.
>>> -gts
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