[ExI] all we are is just llms was: RE: e: GPT-4 on its inability to solve the symbol grounding problem

Giovanni Santostasi gsantostasi at gmail.com
Fri Apr 21 06:31:35 UTC 2023

I'm actually glad you let us know about Bender and her friends because it
is important to know these enemies of transhumanism. I think they are
basically inconsequential but we need to keep an eye open for what they do.
Gerber was a leading member of the AI ethics team at Google (before she was
fired for misconduct) and while it is important to think about AI from an
ethical point of view for sure I don't want her type of agenda used to
create AI ethical guidelines. Some of the topics she is interested in, like
diversity in tech are important and we do need more diversity but to
support her valid interest she goes to the opposite extreme of identifying
people like us as the enemy which is absurd (because transhumanism is very
inclusive by nature given we care about all possible sentient beings,
biological or otherwise).

On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:01 PM Giovanni Santostasi <gsantostasi at gmail.com>

> Gebru, Mitchel, and Bender all re-tweet, compliment and support each other
> on Twitter. I found the Gebru talk on Bender's Twitter before she blocked
> me, evidently, she liked the talk to post it in her tweet feed. I do care
> and I suspected Bender had an agenda (something about how
> conventional linguist theories are shown to be garbage by LLMs
> understanding language) but now I know it is deeper hate than that.
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:56 PM Gordon Swobe <gordon.swobe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:32 PM Giovanni Santostasi via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>> Spike,
>>> Bender, Mitchel, Gebru
>> Your video interview is with Timnit Gebru & Émile P. Torres, whoever the
>> heck they are. Gebru contributed to a paper that also bears Bender's name,
>> and now Bender is a transhumanist-hating AGI-hating man-hating
>> eugenicist?!? lol
>> And who cares anyway? They are correct that it is impossible for a large
>> language model to learn a language like Bengali from scratch. Sundar
>> Pichai of Google lied or misspoke on 60 Minutes. Probably the latter, as he
>> is not actually an AI guy, and/or 60 Minutes did some selective editing for
>> the effect. AI hype sells commercials.
>> -gts.
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