[ExI] all we are is just llms

Giovanni Santostasi gsantostasi at gmail.com
Sun Apr 23 03:00:37 UTC 2023

Established by what or whom? Other linguists?
You didn't show me 2+2=4 or the equivalent, on the contrary, you are
repeating some dogmatic position based on some obsolete understanding of
language. It is not just my half-baked theories but how people that deal
with higher forms of language like mathematics and programming on a
professional level see clearly how language works and try to explain to you
over and over.
I think a lot of the resistance from linguists like Berger is exactly that
these LLMs are going to make us re-think how language works and what
intelligence and understanding mean.

On top of everything I think people are entrenched in some positions
because of their worldview and not because they want to understand the
truth about the topic.

On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 5:29 PM Gordon Swobe <gordon.swobe at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 5:35 PM Giovanni Santostasi via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> Linguistics is obsolete... We need to develop a scientific form of
>> linguistics...
> This is typical of all your arguments, Giovanni, and why I no longer take
> you seriously. If I showed you evidence that because 2+2=4, GPT-4 is
> unconscious just as it claims to be, you would probably tell me that
> mathematics is obsolete and try to replace it with some half-baked theory
> of your own to replace mathematics. just as you want to do now with
> the well-established science of linguistics.
> -gts
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