[ExI] all we are is just llms

[Giovanni Santostasi]

*One uses an abstract code for red, which isn't red, like this one:  "RED"
Since it isn't red, you need a dictionary to know what it is a code for.*
*The other one uses your knowledge of  [image: red_border.png], which is
redness, not a code for redness.  The quality of your knowledge of
 [image: red_border.png]  is your definition of "*RED*"*

BRENT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CODE IS MADE OF ! IT IS
STILL SPIKING NEURONS WHEN YOU SAY "RED" AND WHEN YOU PERCEIVE [image:
red_border.png]. THEY ARE BOTH MADE OF THE SAME STUFF, SPIKING ELECTRICAL
PULSES !
Yes, I'm screaming.
*[image: red_border.png] *IS A CODE FOR REDNESS. IT IS. THE BRAIN ONLY USES
SPIKES OF ELECTRICAL ACTIVITY TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD.




On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 9:44 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
> On 24/04/2023 05:16, Gordon Swobe wrote:
> > These are impressive feats in software engineering, interesting and
> > amazing to be sure, but it's just code.
>
>
> ... As opposed to what?? What on earth could a system - any system - use
> except 'just code'?
>
> All data processing systems use 'just code', including our brains (which
> use a type of morse code, which you already know, unless you haven't
> been listening, or just disagree with me on this).
>
> Er, do you? You haven't even mentioned this, as far as I can remember,
> in any of your posts. But it's an important - essential, even - point.
> The brain uses these spike trains - a kind of morse code - as it's
> internal language. That's its 'code'.
>
> Perhaps we'd better establish if you disagree with this, because you're
> saying some very strange things now. I know you want to concentrate on
> higher-level things, especially human language, but if we can't agree on
> what lies under those levels, we're not really communicating at all.
>
> Do you agree that the brain uses spike-trains - a form of binary code -
> as its internal language? Or do you have an alternative hypothesis?
>
> Ben
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