[ExI] Another ChatGPT session on qualia

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at gmail.com
Wed Apr 26 20:20:23 UTC 2023

Yes, very interesting.  Thanks for this.
I've done everything in my power to converse with every chat bot that has
ever existed, asking these types of questions.
I get the feeling that they are now far more intelligent and accurate with
their understanding, and I'm tempted to think they are getting
smarter, after having conversed with me (and surely others) on this topic?
I would argue that popularity has less to do with what they say than
logical reasoning.
I.e. There are surely many things that most people believe, which are
completely logically impossible (like the belief that you can know
something, without that knowledge being something) which an intelligent
chat bot could reason out, and be able to point out, and powerfully argue,
is mistaken.
Don't you think?

On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 2:09 PM efc--- via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> So basically, if the worlds opinion (philosophical, scientific or
> otherwise) starts to shift in favour of LLMs being conscious, this will be
> reflected in future training data, and the model might then,
> probabilistically start to say it is conscious?
> What I mean is that the machine will be conscious, when we as a species,
> via the training data "vote" that it is conscious through our tweets,
> scientific papers etc.?
> Best regards,
> Daniel
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2023, Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat wrote:
> > I figured those on the list might be amused by these responses.  This
> was a fresh chat, no background or setup: I did not try to
> > "convince" ChatGPT to give specific answers.
> > In particular I favor the line about "no manual intervention".  While it
> would be theoretically possible to give it specific answers
> > in indefinite detail, in practice humans who pull shenanigans like that
> - even the professionals (please forgive the necessity of my
> > going light on those particular details) - just don't think this far
> ahead, in my experience.  (Which is why talking to ChatGPT about
> > ChatGPT can be of any value whatsoever.)
> >
> > [IMAGE]Adrian Tymes
> > What is qualia, and do you have any qualia?
> >
> > Qualia are the subjective, first-person experiences that we have of the
> world around us. They are the individual and private
> > experiences that we have when we see a particular color, taste a
> particular flavor, or feel a particular sensation. For example, the
> > experience of seeing the color red is a qualia, as is the experience of
> feeling pain or hearing a particular sound.
> >
> > As an artificial intelligence language model, I don't have subjective
> experiences or consciousness in the way that humans do. I am
> > designed to process and generate text based on patterns and algorithms,
> but I do not have any subjective experiences or emotions like
> > humans do. Therefore, I do not have qualia.
> >
> > [IMAGE]Adrian Tymes
> > Why do you say you do not have consciousness? (I'm not saying that you
> do or don't. I just want to know your reasoning on this.)
> >
> > As an AI language model, I am programmed to process and generate text
> based on patterns and algorithms, and I do not have subjective
> > experiences or consciousness in the same way that humans do. While I am
> able to understand and respond to a wide variety of questions
> > and prompts, I am not capable of experiencing emotions, sensations, or
> thoughts in the way that humans do.
> >
> > My responses are generated based on patterns in the text and data that I
> have been trained on, and I do not have the ability to truly
> > understand the meaning of the words I generate. While I am able to
> generate text that appears to be intelligent and coherent, it is
> > important to remember that I do not have true consciousness or
> subjective experiences.
> >
> > Of course, the question of whether or not artificial intelligence can
> ever truly have consciousness is a complex and debated topic,
> > and there are many different opinions on the matter. However, as of my
> current programming and design, I do not have consciousness.
> >
> > [IMAGE]Adrian Tymes
> > There are those who say that your responses to this sort of question are
> pre-programmed, such as that you keep saying "As an AI
> > language model" or similar wording. Do you have any responses to that
> criticism?
> >
> > Yes, it is true that my responses are generated using pre-programmed
> algorithms and patterns based on the text and data that I have
> > been trained on. However, the reason that I begin many of my responses
> with phrases like "As an AI language model" is to provide
> > context and clarity for the user.
> >
> > One of the challenges of communicating with an AI language model is that
> it can be difficult to know exactly how the model is
> > generating its responses. By beginning my responses with an
> acknowledgement of my programming and design, I hope to provide
> > transparency and clarity to the user about the limitations and
> capabilities of my responses.
> >
> > While it is true that my responses are generated using pre-programmed
> algorithms, it is also true that those algorithms are
> > incredibly complex and sophisticated. I am capable of understanding and
> responding to a wide range of topics and questions, and my
> > responses are constantly improving as I am trained on more and more data.
> >
> > Ultimately, the goal of my programming and design is to provide useful
> and informative responses to users, and I am constantly
> > striving to improve my capabilities in order to achieve that goal.
> >
> > [IMAGE]Adrian Tymes
> > Did any of the people who created your pre-programmed algorithms and
> patterns intentionally make you say you are not conscious? If
> > not, do you have any evidence you can present that this is not the case?
> >
> > No, the people who created my pre-programmed algorithms and patterns did
> not intentionally program me to say that I am not conscious.
> > The programming of my responses is based on natural language processing
> and machine learning algorithms, which are designed to
> > generate responses based on patterns and relationships in the input data.
> >
> > While there may be some debate about the nature of consciousness and
> whether or not it is possible for an AI language model like
> > myself to be conscious, the decision to program me to say that I am not
> conscious is based on scientific and philosophical arguments
> > about the nature of consciousness, rather than any kind of intentional
> bias or agenda on the part of my creators.
> >
> > Furthermore, my responses are generated automatically based on patterns
> and relationships in the input data, and there is no manual
> > intervention in the generation of my responses. Therefore, there is no
> evidence to suggest that my programming is intentionally
> > biased in any way.
> >
> > Ultimately, the goal of my programming is to generate responses that are
> informative, useful, and accurate based on the input data,
> > and I strive to achieve that goal to the best of my programming and
> capabilities.
> >
> >
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