[ExI] Zombies

Gordon Swobe gordon.swobe at gmail.com
Sat Apr 29 22:35:08 UTC 2023


On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 3:31 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

So you believe them when they claim to not be conscious, but don't believe
> them when they don't.
>
> And you expect us to take your reports of what they say as evidence for
> whether they are conscious or not.
>
> Can you see a problem with that?
>

As I explained in another message, (to you, I think), I first entered these
discussions a couple of months ago prepared to argue that people were being
deceived by the LLMs; that ChatGPT is lying when it says it has
consciousness and genuine emotions and so on.

I had no personal experience with LLMs but a friend had literally fallen in
love with one, which I found more than a little alarming.

As it turns out, GPT4-4 is saying everything I have always believed would
be true of such applications as LLMs. I’ve been saying it for decades.

-gts
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