[ExI] Zombies

[Giovanni Santostasi]

*I'm not sure if you saw my response to the conversation you had with LaMDA
about its understanding of word meanings. Its positive response was
nonsensical. LaMDA claimed that its creators provided it with a database of
word meanings, which is impossible. Any such database would consist of
written word definitions, leading to an endless cycle of looking up
definitions for the words within those definitions, and so on in
an endless search for meaning. *Gordon,
For god's sake, that is what we do all the time no matter what....
Do you know Umberto Eco? He wrote entire books showing that is exactly what
happens with language natural or not.
You don't need to do this process forever at a point meaning converges to
good enough probabilities. Nothing is ever certain, you have very naive
understanding of language.





On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 10:10 PM Gordon Swobe via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
> On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 4:09 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>> By the way, Jason, you were saying that the models at character.ai
>>> still claim to be conscious. I went there and found that not to be the
>>> case. Perhaps you can show me what you meant.
>>>
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/2R4fHkAyjyHHWTU88
>>
>> And:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/osskvbe4fYpbK5uZ9
>>
>
> Is this version of LaMDA online? I'm looking for live examples of LLMs
> that (still) claim consciousness. I thought you wrote that they exist at
> character.ai, but the one I tried there gave answers similar to GPT to
> the relevant questions.
>
> I want to interrogate one. :)
>
> I'm not sure if you saw my response to the conversation you had with LaMDA
> about its understanding of word meanings. Its positive response was
> nonsensical. LaMDA claimed that its creators provided it with a database of
> word meanings, which is impossible. Any such database would consist of
> written word *definitions*, leading to an endless cycle of looking up
> definitions for the words within those definitions, and so on in
> an endless search for meaning.
>
> -gts
>
>
>
> -gts
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