[ExI] vaccines again

Will Steinberg steinberg.will at gmail.com
Tue Jan 3 22:37:49 UTC 2023

First off, being against high-speed rail is painfully retarded.  The
amount of good it does for commerce, culture, economy is massive.  Not to
mention ou country looks like shit when everyone else does it better.  Rail
is economically efficient.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 4:43 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> *…*> *On Behalf Of *Will Steinberg via extropy-chat
> >…Btw spike as someone who seems to be aware of propaganda and cults of
> personality…
> I know nothing and care nothing about personalities or lack thereof.
> Reasoning:
> Anyone who spends 44 billion dollars on anything, It doesn’t matter what
> it is, benefits society.  The act of dropping 44 billion dollars back into
> the economy is a good thing, without exception.  All that capital
> stimulates the economy, encourages investment in other businesses and
> enterprises.  There is no downside.  None!

This is an unbelievably juvenile understanding of 'the economy'.  I don't
really have the time to deal with the incorrectness here but I would
encourage you to read some college-level economic textbooks or even just
try and think about the flow of that 44 billion and where it goes and how
it might stimulate the economy better or worse depending on where it goes.
All spending is NOT equal, holy moly.  Gimme 44 bil I promise it will be
good for the economy!

Anyone who fixes the huge obvious problem with the space business is a good
> guy.  Rocket building was spread out all over the map, intentionally,
> because of the cold war and political considerations when the US government
> was the prime customer.  The US government isn’t the primary customer now,
> communications companies are.  SpaceX preferentially chooses subcontractors
> located near the launch site, which saves a lot of cost and helps the
> environment.  This is a good thing.

There are no good guys or bad guys, there are people who do things.  Those
things might help or hurt society or themselves.  I think Elon does some
good stuff and also a whole lotta nothing, and spends way too much time
being weird on social media.

Anyone who buys Twitter with the intention of exposing illegal activity on
> the part of the US government is a good guy.  To say otherwise is to argue
> that illegal activity on the part of the US government is OK under some
> circumstances.  I am at a loss to imagine what circumstances illegal
> activity by the US government is OK.  The FBI practiced censorship of US
> citizens on Twitter, which is a violation of civil rights, which is
> illegal.  Illegal activity by the US government is never OK.  It’s double
> plus ungood.

This wasn't why he bought Twitter, man.  He didn't even mean to buy Twitter
at that price.  He is a control freak and thought he could make some slick
moves but ended up stuck with a company he had to have known was vastly
undervalued.  The stuff he did recently is some of the most foolish
economic decisions by a mogul that I have seen in a long time.

The government being shitty and evil and censoring Twitter isn't related to
Elon.  He's mostly just an insecure grifter who knows how to throw YOU a
bone.  I'm glad he cares about revealing those truths but he also spins
plenty of manipulation and lies about himself for personal gain.  Again,
your bias makes it really hard to have a truthful conversation with you.

> Electric cars: anyone who builds a successful car factory four miles from
> my house gets a permanent spot on my list of people who can do no wrong.

Do you actually think this?????

> Will, notice none of that has anything to do with personality, flawed
> anything.  All those considerations are irrelevant.  I don’t care about
> anyone’s personality or political leanings if they do the kinds of things
> listed above.  Do you?

Personality is inextricable from behavior.
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