[ExI] Tracking Phone Location IDs offenders

Henrik Ohrstrom henrik.ohrstrom at gmail.com
Sun Jan 22 08:02:18 UTC 2023


Sorry, you hade the bag and adress, ignore that part, just read that
brilliant part about being boring.


Den sön 22 jan. 2023 09:00Henrik Ohrstrom <henrik.ohrstrom at gmail.com> skrev:

> You need to do more than just buy the phone in an Anon manner. Unless you
> always turn it on and off (Bagged in a rf sealed bag) at a random location,
> the phone will live at the same adress as you and there you have enough
> connection. 3G signals enable location resolution in the order of
> apartments and 4G 5G give you rooms or parts thereof.
> Anonymity is hard. And suspicious. Be boring instead.
>
> Den tors 12 jan. 2023 22:21sjatkins via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> skrev:
>
>>
>>
>> For my next phone I will buy the phone and the pay as you go sim card
>> with cash.  Before I activate it flash it with grapheneos.  Only pay for
>> more on the sim card with cash or crypto.  This way the phone is not tied
>> to my true name.   I will always run it with VPN on.   I pay a fair amount
>> of attention to whether there are any apps added that may send out farmed
>> information about wifi base stations near me.  That still leaves cell tower
>> triangulation. But it is better than the average bear.  If I am really
>> nervous I will turn it off and drop it in a faraday bag before I leave home
>> and take it out and use it only for emergencies.   I don't give out the
>> main number to hardly anyone anymore but instead give out virtual numbers
>> where I don't just make one up for some stupid form that insists on it but
>> doesn't need it.   Most things that demand a phone # don't need one or need
>> SMS on it once or for some lame form of 2FA.
>>
>> I am slowly training contacts to use Signal and I will eventually get
>> around to using VOIP only as much as possible from home base.   You can do
>> voice and audio calls with Signal as well.
>>
>> I think reclaiming privacy is important and better to figure this stuff
>> out before the government and other busies get so tyrannical there really
>> isn't space and access to prepare.  I sadly think the day is coming when
>> all of us need such things.    Too much is being made illegal or super
>> regulated that is essential to living life as a free human being.
>>
>> - samantha
>>
>>
>> ------- Original Message -------
>> On Monday, January 9th, 2023 at 6:03 AM, BillK via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > But the interesting comment is that switching off their smartphones
>> > probably would not have helped.
>> >
>> > Quote:
>> > There’s a whole lot of surveillance you can do if you can follow
>> > everyone, everywhere, all the time. I don’t even think turning your
>> > cell phone off would help in this instance. How many people in the
>> > Washington area turned their phones off during exactly the times of
>> > the Washington power station attacks? Probably a small enough number
>> > to investigate them all.
>> > -----------
>> >
>> > Smartphones?? Just say NO! :)
>> >
>> > BillK
>> >
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