[ExI] was analyze subject - now useless inventions

[William Flynn Wallace]

You give me somebody to write to about range hoods, and I'll do it.   bill w

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 8:36 PM Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> Quoting William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>:
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> > Most useless invention (add your own favorites):
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> > Some hood fans are made not to exhaust in your attic, or even better,
> > through the roof, but back into the room, blowing hot air into the faces
> of
> > tall people like me.
> > All stoves, gas or electric, should have roof exits.    bill w
> >
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> I agree with this 100%. I lived in an apartment and imagine my shock
> when I realize that my ELECTRIC stove's exhaust fan was not on an
> external duct but simply blew the toxic smoke from burning food back
> into my apartment. This is, from personal data, so much a bigger
> effect than gas stoves on lung heath, that I think you need to write
> an article on this professor. I mean the very principle of a fume hood
> in chemistry lab, if your cooking generates cyanide gas, is that as
> long as it is properly vented to the outside of the lab, you the
> experimenter is perfectly safe. This is a huge insight, Dr. Wallace,
> and inevitably leads to the conclusion that proper exhaust of stoves
> is orders of magnitude more important than what fuel is used.
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> Stuart LaForge
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> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 2:34 PM BillK via extropy-chat <
> > extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> >> On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 at 19:36, sjatkins via extropy-chat
> >> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> >> > Would someone more well-versed in the statistical argument presented
> >> please critically examine the argument in this article.  It looks quite
> >> suspicious to me to go from a meta-analysis of other articles that did
> not
> >> explicitly find a link between asthma and gas stoves to a the number of
> gas
> >> stoves in existence and the rate of asthma plus a bit of mathematical
> >> jargon to conclude 12.1% correlation between asthma (much less)
> correlation
> >> and gas stoves in the home. Yet this suspicious article is being widely
> >> referred to in MSM as support from "the Science" for banning gas stoves.
> >> >
> >> > https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/20/1/75
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> >> > And of course those that question this latest bit of trumpeted
> "wisdom"
> >> are being called "deniers" and worse as per quite sad usual today.
> >> > _______________________________________________
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> >> Their maths is OK, but it is the assumptions that are mistaken.
> >> I found two articles pointing out the problems, one from US, one from
> UK.
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> https://slate.com/technology/2023/01/gas-stoves-asthma-paper-headlines-kids.html
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> >> Quote:
> >> Does this mean that gas stoves do not matter? No. But it suggests
> >> other things matter a lot more.
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> https://inews.co.uk/news/evidence-that-gas-stoves-cause-asthma-is-patchy-but-that-doesnt-mean-theyre-totally-safe-2095097
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> >> Quote:
> >> Put all this together and there is a credible case that gas stove use
> >> in the home at least exacerbates asthma symptoms. But since it’s a
> >> very low-cost, low-difficulty intervention, it probably makes sense to
> >> open a window while (or just after) using a gas cooker, or to use a
> >> cooker hood with a good extractor fan, especially if you have children
> >> nearby.
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> >> BillK
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