[ExI] What is "Elemental Redness"?

[Giovanni Santostasi]

Thoughts from just blood activity patterns in the brain... 82 % accuracy,
all patterns...

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/01/scientists-develop-ai-system-focused-on-turning-thoughts-into-text.html

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 1:55 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> On Tue, May 2, 2023, 3:11 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> On 02/05/2023 18:27, Jason Resch wrote:
>> > The hard problem of consciousness comes about by assuming a particular
>> > answer to the mind-body problem.
>> >
>> > The mind-body problem asks: what is the nature of the connection
>> > between mind and matter.
>> >
>> > If you assume matter is fundamental (materialism) then you end up with
>> > "the hard problem of consciousness" -- how to explain the appearance
>> > of consciousness given only matter.
>> >
>> > On the other hand:
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>> > If you assume consciousness is fundamental (materialism) then you end
>> > up with "the hard problem of matter" -- how to explain the appearance
>> > of matter given only consciousness.
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>> Nonsense. (in my opinion).
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>> There isn't one fundamental thing, there are three. There are only three
>> things that make up the world and they are all subject to the laws of
>> physics, all understandable and all predictable (or at least computable):
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> That's the materialist position. There are others, however.
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>> Space/Time
>> Matter/Energy
>> Information
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> Where do math, truth, logic, physical law, integers, mathematical objects
> and other universes fit in?
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> Reality might be much larger than what we can see from our present vantage
> point as a human in this universe. Physics offers no evidence against this
> larger reality, and actually supplies much indirect evidence of it.
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>> Absolutely everything falls under some combination of these three things
>> (and some people do reckon they can be collapsed into one thing, but I
>> don't really know anything about that. It probably involves lots of very
>> difficult maths, and is probably irrelevant to the world we inhabit).
>>
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> On the contrary, it's very relevant. See this section of an article I
> wrote, about how much of physics can be explained by presuming math is more
> fundamental than physics:
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> https://alwaysasking.com/why-does-anything-exist/#Predictions_of_the_Theory
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>> Even gods ghosts and goblins fall under these things, because they are
>> the imagined products of (some rather deranged) human minds.
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>> I mean if you really wanted to, I suppose you could call this
>> 'tripleism'. But I don't think it would catch on. But still, they are
>> the raw ingredients of reality. The recipes you can create from them are
>> infinite, but everything is made up of them, and there is nothing else
>> (as far as we know).
>>
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> Do you believe in the existence of other universes having different
> physical laws?
>
> Jason
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>> That's what I call materialism.
>>
>> Ben
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