[ExI] The Animal Welfare (Sentience) Bill

[Stuart LaForge]

Yes, it appears that the tasty food animals have not yet solved the  
vegetarian-alignment problem due to orthogonality of values. ;-)

Stuart LaForge


Quoting Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>:
>
> Well, in our local park there are herds of wild venison, but on the  
> whole I agree. I've pointed that out many times to vegetarians and  
> extreme vegetarians in the past, but they seem to have a blind spot.  
> I suppose it's an interesting ethical question. Is it better to have  
> a large population of tasty food animals, many of which will lead  
> good and happy lives up to the point when they are suddenly killed  
> (I'm definitely opposed to battery farming and similar practices,  
> which lead to poor-qualilty food anyway), or to have a zero  
> population of tasty food animals because they're all extinct?
>
> Some people will say that if they're extinct we can't exploit them,  
> so that would be a good thing. I say that if they're extinct we  
> can't eat them, so that would be a bad thing.
>
> Ben

> On 03/05/2023 12:41, Stuart LaForge wrote:
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>> I had not considered that. Although it is entirely possible to kill  
>> ones meat with little to no pain, I can see how they could be  
>> related. What do these people have against farm animals? Our  
>> livestock are, aside from us, ants, termites, and antarctic krill,  
>> the most evolutionarily successful animals in the world. We are  
>> doing their bloodlines a solid favor by eating them. Do they think  
>> that feral cattle and chickens would just roam our cities?  
>> Eliminating meat would likely cause the extinction of several  
>> domestic farm animals in the long run.
>>
>> Stuart LaForge
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Tara Maya via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>:
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>>> The road to hell...
>>>
>>> It sounds like another way to starve humans, part of the war on meat.
>