[ExI] The Animal Welfare (Sentience) Bill

Gadersd gadersd at gmail.com
Wed May 3 15:04:47 UTC 2023


> Some people will say that if they're extinct we can't exploit them, so that would be a good thing. I say that if they're extinct we can't eat them, so that would be a bad thing.

Just eat the lab grown meat that will hopefully be plentiful in the future.

> On May 3, 2023, at 9:02 AM, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> On 03/05/2023 12:41, Stuart LaForge wrote:
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>> I had not considered that. Although it is entirely possible to kill ones meat with little to no pain, I can see how they could be related. What do these people have against farm animals? Our livestock are, aside from us, ants, termites, and antarctic krill, the most evolutionarily successful animals in the world. We are doing their bloodlines a solid favor by eating them. Do they think that feral cattle and chickens would just roam our cities? Eliminating meat would likely cause the extinction of several domestic farm animals in the long run. 
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>> Stuart LaForge 
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>> Quoting Tara Maya via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>: 
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>>> The road to hell... 
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>>> It sounds like another way to starve humans, part of the war on meat.
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> Well, in our local park there are herds of wild venison, but on the whole I agree. I've pointed that out many times to vegetarians and extreme vegetarians in the past, but they seem to have a blind spot. I suppose it's an interesting ethical question. Is it better to have a large population of tasty food animals, many of which will lead good and happy lives up to the point when they are suddenly killed (I'm definitely opposed to battery farming and similar practices, which lead to poor-qualilty food anyway), or to have a zero population of tasty food animals because they're all extinct?
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> Some people will say that if they're extinct we can't exploit them, so that would be a good thing. I say that if they're extinct we can't eat them, so that would be a bad thing.
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> Ben
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