[ExI] morality

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Thu May 18 14:58:07 UTC 2023


If you really want to know about the US health system you need to read Atul
Gawande.    bill w

On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 9:52 AM BillK via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 14:19, spike jones via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >
> <snip>
> > I follow an ethical system I call sometruism.  In that system, the
> objective measure is profit.  If one is benefiting others, one makes
> money.  So it is like altruism where one gets rich doing it.  Sacrificing
> oneself for others and profit.  Measure how much good one is doing by how
> much clean lucre one earns doing it.  Clean lucre is a good thing, and
> people benefit from your self-sacrificing capitalism.
> >
> > spike
> > _______________________________________________
>
>
> Your comment points out the failure of health care in the US.
>
> <https://time.com/6279956/americans-dying-young/>
> Quotes:
> Why Americans Are Dying So Young
> By Laudan Aron and Gavin Yamey    May 16, 2023
>
> Life expectancy in America fell sharply in 2020. It fell again in
> 2021. The COVID-19 pandemic certainly played a role, but that’s not
> the whole story. During this same time period, eight of the ten
> leading causes of death also increased. Even maternal and child and
> adolescent mortality increased. In August 2022, federal health
> officials released new data showing that across all demographic
> groups, Americans are dying younger.
>
> The U.S. healthcare system, its high costs, and its poor health
> outcomes, start to “make sense” when viewed through a business case
> lens, and its optimization of revenue and profits, rather than health
> and wellbeing. As Dr. Elisabeth Rosenthal, editor-in-chief of KFF
> Health News, says about the U.S. medical market, “a lifetime of
> treatment is preferable to a cure” and “prices will rise to whatever
> the market will bear.” It should come as no surprise then that that
> the U.S. healthcare system is one driver of the poor health and
> survival of Americans, many of whom are uninsured, underinsured,
> medically undertreated or overtreated, distrustful of the system, and
> drowning in medical debt.
> -------------------
>
> It is clear that in some cases profit leads to bad results.
>
> BillK
>
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