[ExI] Culture war and universal values in the age of spiritual machines

efc at swisscows.email efc at swisscows.email
Sun Nov 26 18:53:27 UTC 2023

Another interesting question is if some of those values can be collapsed 
into others.

I'm not a fan of the concept "justice" without the machinery underneath 
defined. Otherwise it is just an empty term. So that's why I'm wondering 
about collapsing some of them into the others.

Best regards,

On Sun, 26 Nov 2023, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat wrote:

> Saving this!  THis is great - thanks Stuart.
> Commentary by S. Freud:
> The law to love your enemies is the most impossible thing to follow in any religion. 
> bill w
> On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 12:13 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>       This is wonderful. Thank you for sharing it.
> Jason
> On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 12:41 PM Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>       I asked ChatGPT what set of moral values lay at the intersection of the
>       sets of all values espoused by the major religions of the world with
>       explicit references to their sacred texts. This was its answer and its
>       answer gave me hope that AI can help end the culture wars. So here are
>       the Five Moral Imperatives shared by the world's major religions:
>       The Golden Rule and Reciprocity:
>       Christianity: "So in everything, do to others what you would have them
>       do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 7:12,
>       New Testament)
>       Judaism: "What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow man. This is
>       the law: all the rest is commentary." (Talmud, Shabbat 31a)
>       Islam: "None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother
>       what he wishes for himself." (Hadith of Prophet Muhammad, Bukhari and
>       Muslim)
>       Hinduism: "This is the sum of duty: do not do to others what would cause
>       pain if done to you." (Mahabharata 5:1517)
>       Buddhism: "Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find
>       hurtful." (Udana-Varga 5.18)
>       Sikhism: "As you deem yourself, deem others as well; only then you shall
>       become a partner in heaven." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 1299)
>       Compassion and Love:
>       Christianity: "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have
>       loved you, so you must love one another." (John 13:34, New Testament)
>       Judaism: "Love your neighbor as yourself." (Leviticus 19:18, Torah)
>       Islam: "And lower to them the wing of humility out of mercy and say, 'My
>       Lord, have mercy upon them as they brought me up [when I was] small.'"
>       (Quran 17:24)
>       Hinduism: "The whole world is full of God's glory; serve all beings as
>       God." (Ramayana, Yuddha Kanda 115.33)
>       Buddhism: "Radiate boundless love towards the entire world." (Buddha,
>       Sutta Nipata 149-150)
>       Sikhism: "One who recognizes the One Lord among all beings does not talk
>       of ego." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 99)
>       Justice and Fairness:
>       Christianity: "Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the
>       poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly."
>       (Leviticus 19:15, Torah)
>       Judaism: "Justice, justice shall you pursue." (Deuteronomy 16:20, Torah)
>       Islam: "O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm in
>       justice, witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or
>       parents and relatives." (Quran 4:135)
>       Hinduism: "Justice, when it is corrupted, destroys; but when it is
>       upheld, it upholds the world." (Mahabharata 12.131.6)
>       Buddhism: "Conquer the angry man by love; conquer the ill-natured man by
>       goodness; conquer the miser with generosity; conquer the liar with
>       truth." (Dhammapada 223)
>       Sikhism: "Justice is the mint, courage the brave coin. When the coin of
>       justice is made, it is tested by courage." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 1088)
>       Charity and Generosity:
>       Christianity: "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide
>       purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that
>       will never fail." (Luke 12:33, New Testament)
>       Judaism: "Do not be hard-hearted or tight-fisted toward your poor
>       brother." (Deuteronomy 15:7, Torah)
>       Islam: "The example of those who spend their wealth in the Way of Allah
>       is like that of a grain that sprouts seven ears, and in every ear there
>       are a hundred grains." (Quran 2:261)
>       Hinduism: "The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray."
>       (Yajur Veda)
>       Buddhism: "If beings knew, as I know, the result of giving and sharing,
>       they would not eat without having given." (Itivuttaka 26)
>       Sikhism: "Serve the True Guru, and you shall obtain the fruits of your
>       heart's desires." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 1299)
>       Truth and Honesty:
>       Christianity: "Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak
>       truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body."
>       (Ephesians 4:25, New Testament)
>       Judaism: "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor."
>       (Exodus 20:16, Torah)
>       Islam: "O you who have believed, fear Allah and be with those who are
>       true." (Quran 9:119)
>       Hinduism: "The truth which satisfies the heart is true." (Mahabharata
>       5:124.9)
>       Buddhism: "In speech that is gentle, truthful, and beneficial, one
>       should address others." (Anguttara Nikaya 10.176)
>       Sikhism: "Truth is the trade of the Guru's children; practice truth in
>       your mind." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 471)
>       As a human being, I am deeply moved by this and hopeful for a bright
>       future where men and machines explore the galaxy together.
>       Stuart LaForge
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