[ExI] Culture war and universal values in the age of spiritual machines
William Flynn Wallace
foozler83 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 26 19:23:47 UTC 2023
I'm not a fan of the concept "justice" without the machinery underneath
defined. Otherwise it is just an empty term. So that's why I'm wondering
about collapsing some of them into the others. daniel
This sounds like a multiple regression type problem. Why not let some AI
parse this one? Maybe everything on the list will collapse into the Golden
Rule. bill w
Best regards,
Daniel
On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 12:53 PM <efc at swisscows.email> wrote:
> Another interesting question is if some of those values can be collapsed
> into others.
>
> I'm not a fan of the concept "justice" without the machinery underneath
> defined. Otherwise it is just an empty term. So that's why I'm wondering
> about collapsing some of them into the others.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat wrote:
>
> > Saving this! THis is great - thanks Stuart.
> >
> > Commentary by S. Freud:
> >
> > The law to love your enemies is the most impossible thing to follow in
> any religion.
> >
> > bill w
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 12:13 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> > This is wonderful. Thank you for sharing it.
> > Jason
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 12:41 PM Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> > I asked ChatGPT what set of moral values lay at the intersection
> of the
> > sets of all values espoused by the major religions of the world
> with
> > explicit references to their sacred texts. This was its answer and
> its
> > answer gave me hope that AI can help end the culture wars. So here
> are
> > the Five Moral Imperatives shared by the world's major religions:
> >
> > The Golden Rule and Reciprocity:
> >
> > Christianity: "So in everything, do to others what you would have
> them
> > do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." (Matthew
> 7:12,
> > New Testament)
> > Judaism: "What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow man.
> This is
> > the law: all the rest is commentary." (Talmud, Shabbat 31a)
> > Islam: "None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his
> brother
> > what he wishes for himself." (Hadith of Prophet Muhammad, Bukhari
> and
> > Muslim)
> > Hinduism: "This is the sum of duty: do not do to others what would
> cause
> > pain if done to you." (Mahabharata 5:1517)
> > Buddhism: "Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find
> > hurtful." (Udana-Varga 5.18)
> > Sikhism: "As you deem yourself, deem others as well; only then you
> shall
> > become a partner in heaven." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 1299)
> >
> > Compassion and Love:
> >
> > Christianity: "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I
> have
> > loved you, so you must love one another." (John 13:34, New
> Testament)
> > Judaism: "Love your neighbor as yourself." (Leviticus 19:18, Torah)
> > Islam: "And lower to them the wing of humility out of mercy and
> say, 'My
> > Lord, have mercy upon them as they brought me up [when I was]
> small.'"
> > (Quran 17:24)
> > Hinduism: "The whole world is full of God's glory; serve all
> beings as
> > God." (Ramayana, Yuddha Kanda 115.33)
> > Buddhism: "Radiate boundless love towards the entire world."
> (Buddha,
> > Sutta Nipata 149-150)
> > Sikhism: "One who recognizes the One Lord among all beings does
> not talk
> > of ego." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 99)
> >
> > Justice and Fairness:
> >
> > Christianity: "Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to
> the
> > poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly."
> > (Leviticus 19:15, Torah)
> > Judaism: "Justice, justice shall you pursue." (Deuteronomy 16:20,
> Torah)
> > Islam: "O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm in
> > justice, witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or
> > parents and relatives." (Quran 4:135)
> > Hinduism: "Justice, when it is corrupted, destroys; but when it is
> > upheld, it upholds the world." (Mahabharata 12.131.6)
> > Buddhism: "Conquer the angry man by love; conquer the ill-natured
> man by
> > goodness; conquer the miser with generosity; conquer the liar with
> > truth." (Dhammapada 223)
> > Sikhism: "Justice is the mint, courage the brave coin. When the
> coin of
> > justice is made, it is tested by courage." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang
> 1088)
> >
> > Charity and Generosity:
> >
> > Christianity: "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide
> > purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven
> that
> > will never fail." (Luke 12:33, New Testament)
> > Judaism: "Do not be hard-hearted or tight-fisted toward your poor
> > brother." (Deuteronomy 15:7, Torah)
> > Islam: "The example of those who spend their wealth in the Way of
> Allah
> > is like that of a grain that sprouts seven ears, and in every ear
> there
> > are a hundred grains." (Quran 2:261)
> > Hinduism: "The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray."
> > (Yajur Veda)
> > Buddhism: "If beings knew, as I know, the result of giving and
> sharing,
> > they would not eat without having given." (Itivuttaka 26)
> > Sikhism: "Serve the True Guru, and you shall obtain the fruits of
> your
> > heart's desires." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 1299)
> >
> > Truth and Honesty:
> >
> > Christianity: "Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and
> speak
> > truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body."
> > (Ephesians 4:25, New Testament)
> > Judaism: "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor."
> > (Exodus 20:16, Torah)
> > Islam: "O you who have believed, fear Allah and be with those who
> are
> > true." (Quran 9:119)
> > Hinduism: "The truth which satisfies the heart is true."
> (Mahabharata
> > 5:124.9)
> > Buddhism: "In speech that is gentle, truthful, and beneficial, one
> > should address others." (Anguttara Nikaya 10.176)
> > Sikhism: "Truth is the trade of the Guru's children; practice
> truth in
> > your mind." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 471)
> >
> > As a human being, I am deeply moved by this and hopeful for a
> bright
> > future where men and machines explore the galaxy together.
> >
> > Stuart LaForge
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