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[efc at swisscows.email]

Hello Bill,

Yes, perhaps the country or nation as the unit of organization is fading 
away, and in the future the fundamental unit will be the corporation. No 
more citizens, but associates, share holders and employees. No more 
presidents and parliaments, but CEO:s and share holders meetings.

Then the mergers will happen, and we'll have the Wayland corporation and 
the Umbrella corporation.

What will be interesting though, is if any of these future 
megacorporations will drop the fig leaf, and rename their purchased 
country of choice in their own image?

Imagine... the country of X will no longer be know as X, but from now on 
will be known as The Umbrella Corporation.

Wouldn't that be a finger in the face of the old countries and old 
politicians?

Well, age old science fiction themes, but still entertaining to think 
about.

Best regards,
Daniel


On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat wrote:

> I think that whatever the global megacorporations will obey is the government we will have.  They will do the planning of the economy
> because they 'are' the economy.  bill w
> 
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 6:12 AM efc--- via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>       Hello Gadersd,
>
>       On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Gadersd via extropy-chat wrote:
>
>       > laws and governments remains to permit this option. I dread a future
>       > in which centralization has the whole of humanity trapped within a
>       > singular regime. I am not sure how AI will change the competitive
>
>       I agree. This is one of my biggest fears as well. If we look at humanity
>       at large, it does look as if there is a historical trend of ever greater
>       consolidation and centralization. From families on the savannah, to
>       tribes, to cities, to city states, to many countries and kingdoms and
>       today to the 200:ish countries we have.
>
>       If the trend continues, and once there is a world government in place,
>       there will be no place to run in case of corruption or malfunctioning of
>       the system.
>
>       Makes one wonder if that in turn, will generate a future like in The
>       Expanse or The moon is a harsh mistress, where we expand outwards away
>       from the centralized tyrrany and if the colonies will once again break
>       free, to then start the cycle of centralization again?
>
>       Or will we end up in a utopian Star trek universe where all is good and
>       everything is post scarcity, despite the centralized governing function?
>
>       Best regards,
>       Daniel
> 
> 
>
>       >
>       >> On Oct 4, 2023, at 5:40 PM, efc--- via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>       >>
>       >> True. ;)
>       >>
>       >> On Wed, 4 Oct 2023, Brent Allsop wrote:
>       >>
>       >>> And democracy is the first step, but you still suffer from politics.
>       >>
>       >> Well, on a more serious note, corona was the final straw that made me
>       >> lose all hope in democracy as a sustainable long term way of running
>       >> society. Haven't bothered to vote since then, and don't know if I ever
>       >> will.
>       >>
>       >> When it comes to living life the way I want to live it, I am a proponent
>       >> of the following techniques:
>       >>
>       >> 1. Voting with your feet (this is the most amount of voting I do). 2. Incorporating yourself. 3. Find good lawyers or
>       read the law book yourself to use the system
>       >> against itself, and to make it work for you.
>       >>
>       >> But voting... I think I'm done with that game.
>       >>
>       >> Best regards, Daniel
>       >>
>       >>
>       >>> And of course the solution to that is giving every lost soul at the bottom a voice (no censoring) and building and
>       tracking consensus
>       >>> so things can scale.
>       >>> Once you find enough  people that want the same thing you do, it will just happen.
>       >>> Building and tracking consensus is the only hard part of getting anything done.
>       >>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 2:17 PM efc--- via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>       >>>      Or was it "the last politician strangled with the entrails of the last
>       >>>      politician."? ;)
>       >>>
>       >>>      Best regards,
>       >>>      Daniel
>       >>>
>       >>>      On Sun, 1 Oct 2023, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat wrote:
>       >>>
>       >>>      > “Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.” Diderot
>       >>>      >
>       >>>      > bill w
>       >>>      >
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