[ExI] quote of the day
William Flynn Wallace
foozler83 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 6 16:10:02 UTC 2023
Hey Daniel: Please refer to Bill W or Bill K instead of just 'Bill'.
Thanks! bill w
On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 10:48 AM efc--- via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> Hello Bill,
>
> Yes, perhaps the country or nation as the unit of organization is fading
> away, and in the future the fundamental unit will be the corporation. No
> more citizens, but associates, share holders and employees. No more
> presidents and parliaments, but CEO:s and share holders meetings.
>
> Then the mergers will happen, and we'll have the Wayland corporation and
> the Umbrella corporation.
>
> What will be interesting though, is if any of these future
> megacorporations will drop the fig leaf, and rename their purchased
> country of choice in their own image?
>
> Imagine... the country of X will no longer be know as X, but from now on
> will be known as The Umbrella Corporation.
>
> Wouldn't that be a finger in the face of the old countries and old
> politicians?
>
> Well, age old science fiction themes, but still entertaining to think
> about.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat wrote:
>
> > I think that whatever the global megacorporations will obey is the
> government we will have. They will do the planning of the economy
> > because they 'are' the economy. bill w
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 6:12 AM efc--- via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> > Hello Gadersd,
> >
> > On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Gadersd via extropy-chat wrote:
> >
> > > laws and governments remains to permit this option. I dread a
> future
> > > in which centralization has the whole of humanity trapped within
> a
> > > singular regime. I am not sure how AI will change the competitive
> >
> > I agree. This is one of my biggest fears as well. If we look at
> humanity
> > at large, it does look as if there is a historical trend of ever
> greater
> > consolidation and centralization. From families on the savannah, to
> > tribes, to cities, to city states, to many countries and kingdoms
> and
> > today to the 200:ish countries we have.
> >
> > If the trend continues, and once there is a world government in
> place,
> > there will be no place to run in case of corruption or
> malfunctioning of
> > the system.
> >
> > Makes one wonder if that in turn, will generate a future like in
> The
> > Expanse or The moon is a harsh mistress, where we expand outwards
> away
> > from the centralized tyrrany and if the colonies will once again
> break
> > free, to then start the cycle of centralization again?
> >
> > Or will we end up in a utopian Star trek universe where all is
> good and
> > everything is post scarcity, despite the centralized governing
> function?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Daniel
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >> On Oct 4, 2023, at 5:40 PM, efc--- via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> True. ;)
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 4 Oct 2023, Brent Allsop wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> And democracy is the first step, but you still suffer from
> politics.
> > >>
> > >> Well, on a more serious note, corona was the final straw that
> made me
> > >> lose all hope in democracy as a sustainable long term way of
> running
> > >> society. Haven't bothered to vote since then, and don't know if
> I ever
> > >> will.
> > >>
> > >> When it comes to living life the way I want to live it, I am a
> proponent
> > >> of the following techniques:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Voting with your feet (this is the most amount of voting I
> do). 2. Incorporating yourself. 3. Find good lawyers or
> > read the law book yourself to use the system
> > >> against itself, and to make it work for you.
> > >>
> > >> But voting... I think I'm done with that game.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards, Daniel
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> And of course the solution to that is giving every lost soul
> at the bottom a voice (no censoring) and building and
> > tracking consensus
> > >>> so things can scale.
> > >>> Once you find enough people that want the same thing you do,
> it will just happen.
> > >>> Building and tracking consensus is the only hard part of
> getting anything done.
> > >>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 2:17 PM efc--- via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> > >>> Or was it "the last politician strangled with the
> entrails of the last
> > >>> politician."? ;)
> > >>>
> > >>> Best regards,
> > >>> Daniel
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2023, William Flynn Wallace via
> extropy-chat wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > “Man will never be free until the last king is
> strangled with the entrails of the last priest.” Diderot
> > >>> >
> > >>> > bill w
> > >>> >
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