[ExI] what would you do?

efc at swisscows.email efc at swisscows.email
Sat Oct 7 17:08:11 UTC 2023


Sounds like a public problem to me. I would contact the local politicians, 
and perhaps even asking them to "think of the children". Maybe write a few 
articles in the local newspaper?

Adding a couple of messages on the local facebook might build some public 
pressure as well?

If no one listens, at least warn the ones close to you to stay away and if 
you're not a stranger to a bit of naughtyness put up a sign.

But if you can engage parents and form a picture in the publics eye that 
children are at risk, at least in my part of the world, local politicians 
will do something.

Then again, I'm far from the US so anything goes.

Can add to that, that where I live there was once a similar space where 
gypsies lived and crime exploded. What the politicians did was to demolish 
the place, and move the gypsies to social housing far removed from each 
other. So they made sure to split them up as far as possible.

I've heard that the approach was a success and crime dropped enormously 
and the public was happy.

Best regards,
Daniel


On Sat, 7 Oct 2023, spike jones via extropy-chat wrote:

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> >…Spike, it comes down to benefits and deficits (cui bono): to speak or not to speak.  I suspect that the deficits related to
> speaking are nil and the benefits possibly large, but I dunno.   bill w
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> Fully agree Billw, but speaking what to whom?  If I just go to the park people and request we take down the map, that doesn’t really
> solve the problem, for even without the map, the park is still externalizing risk on unsuspecting visitors.  The city can’t really do
> anything because being homeless is not a crime.  The stabber didn’t even really do anything illegal, by the line of reasoning our
> society has adopted, where addicts are victims of the disease of addiction, resulting in their homelessness and so they are not
> responsible for their actions.  They get a blanket pardon if they are drug addicts.  A prosecutor cannot prove the perp was not
> devouring illegal drugs at the time.  It’s illegal to commit crimes while not on drugs or course.
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> Oy vey, how did we get to here?
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> On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 11:26 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>       A coupla months ago, I posted in this forum an ethical dilemma.  A nice park down in San Jose has a number of walking
>       trails and other nice features…But all along the south side, the trail goes along Penitencia Creek where homeless people
>       have been taking up residenceless…
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