[ExI] Survival of the nicest: have we got evolution the wrong way round?

[efc at swisscows.email]

On Tue, 9 Apr 2024, Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 5:30 AM Dave S via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>       On 4/9/24 8:09 AM, BillK via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>       >  Does this research indicate that even hard-core libertarians would be
>       >  better off co-operating with others?
>
>       Libertarians aren't opposed to voluntary cooperation.
> 
> 
> Except in practice when:
> 
> 1) Other people need them to cooperate in order for the other people to survive, but they'd be just fine in the short term not
> cooperating, so how dare these other people resort to force, or
> 
> 2) Other people refuse to voluntarily cooperate with them on things they need others' cooperation on in order to survive, which -
> being a threat to their survival - justifies their use of force upon others.

But then it would, per definition, not be voluntary cooperation which is 
what Dave was talking about.