[ExI] fermi flood was: RE: California storms
spike at rainier66.com
spike at rainier66.com
Tue Feb 6 13:17:56 UTC 2024
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From: spike at rainier66.com <spike at rainier66.com>
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>...Consequently... plenty of people come to the USA and choose homeless
here rather than homeful wherever they come from. If one is going to live
outdoors, an overpass or under a bridge makes perfect sense...The masses
want freedom and capitalism, even if it means they must camp out here to get
there. spike
I have been all over the map on this one, so I decided to post something
over on a yet-uncommented part of the thought-map.
The high schools play a game named for Enrico Fermi who was really good at
this: estimating the order of magnitude. An example of a fermi question
would be: How many neutrons are in a fig newton?
A good player would estimate its mass at about 10 to 20 grams, mostly
carbon, a mole of carbon is about 12 grams, so about a mole times six
neutrons per carbon atom, so 3.6E24 neutrons approximately, and depending on
how you estimate mass, the answer might be either 24 or 25.
Local flooding: there is a footbridge across the local waterway. I was over
there during last year's rains and noticed that the water is the color of
chocolate milk. I found a cup and scooped out a water sample, let it settle
and observed that you aren't far off if you estimate the water is 10%
sediment by mass, perhaps 5% by volume. There really is that much silt and
soil washing down that channel.
I was over there yesterday and estimated, Fermi style, the average depth
across there, about a meter, and its width, about ten meters. When the
water is that color, as it is now, the flow rate is likely higher than a
meter a second, but a meter per second as a Fermi-ey estimate will get you
there. So... after a hard rain, as we have been having all week, about ten
cubic meters per second flow rate down that channel, at about 10% silt.
Fermi question: in kg, the mass of silt carried by the Penitentia Creek
after a hard rain per second. Answer: 3. 10^3 kg per second. A ton of
silt per second. This process can go on for hours, or days.
Second question: where does all that silt go?
It gives one a new sense of how deltas form, and what happens when we need
the space to build homes, so we defeat nature's course and build a single
narrow channel where a vast river delta used to be.
Prediction: eventually that channel will silt up and restrict flow rate,
causing water to rise along the course of that river. Consequence: the
homeless living under those bridges will get washed out more regularly.
spike
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