[ExI] trust the fake science?

Travis Porco tcporco at gmail.com
Fri Jun 7 16:33:41 UTC 2024


>On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 17:10, Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat
><extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> If anybody here has read or watched the TV adaptation of "Three Body
>> Problem", this almost seems like a (relatively) low-tech version of the
>> Trisolaran plot to sabotage humanity's advancement in science so that we
>> would be easy prey when their invasion fleet arrives.

>> Stuart LaForge
>> _______________________________________________

>There is now an AI arms race in progress. The fake paper mills use AI
>to generate ever-more convincing fake research papers, While
>publishers and peer reviewers use AI to try to detect AI created
>papers.
>The academic system is the problem. Researchers have to get many
>research reports published to improve their career prospects, and
>publishers and fake paper mills make money from the system.
>The pressure on all concerned is tremendous.

>BillK

Part of the problem is reviewing--there is no other area
in which we require on anonymous, unpaid, unaccountable people
for high quality work.  The scientific system can be overhauled
to raise the value of reviewing.

Moreover it is ultimately based on trust.  There might be
nothing that can be done to tell from the written paper that no data
were ever collected.  Perhaps the journals could conduct
random audits of labs. Their whole value added is in large
part quality assurance.

Obviously severe penalties for falsifying data are needed,
but may not be enough.

--tcp


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