[ExI] DRAFT of my new book

Giulio Prisco giulio at gmail.com
Thu Mar 28 05:01:34 UTC 2024


On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 5:00 PM serafino cerulli-irelli via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Hi Giulio.
>
> Chapter 5 - “Mathematics falls into Gödel’s trap when it talks about
> itself. We are parts of physical reality that talk about it from inside
> physical reality itself. John von Neumann considered the possibility that
> “the information available to the observer regarding his own state could
> have absolute limitations, by the laws of nature” [von Neumann 2018]. It
> seems plausible that any theory of physical reality that we can formulate
> from the inside must be incomplete, with some irreducible indeterminacy.”
>
> Long time ago, David Finkelstein was interested in "introspective" systems.
>
>  *"There is, to be sure, a genuine problem in the phenomenon of quantum
> measurement, but I will not discuss it here. It concerns introspective
> systems, where subject = object so that the basic conception of a single
> subject observing an ensemble of objects must be modified."* -- David
> Finkelstein, "The Physics of Logic", in "Paradigms and Paradoxes", ed. R.
> G. Colodny, 1971, Un. Pittsburgh, p. 60 .
>
>  I wrote a short email and he responded. *"Weizsäcker proposed in
> conversation that in fact the observer divides into two parts on such
> occasions, and then one observes the other as usual. When the observer is
> outside the system, the measurement is represented by a time-dependent
> interaction Hamiltonian. This would not make sense for self-observation,
> but one can imagine a self-interaction governed by an internal parameter
> instead of time."*
>

Thank you Serafino for sending me great relevant references!
G.


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> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 at 05:41, Giulio Prisco via extropy-chat <
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>> I made the draft of my new book open to a group of early readers.
>> Irrational mechanics DRAFT 03.22.24.
>> DRAFT narrative sketch of a futurist science & a new religion.
>> https://www.turingchurch.com/p/irrational-mechanics-draft-032224
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