[ExI] In future, will everybody wear their own body cam?

[Ben Zaiboc]

On 06/10/2024 19:23, efc at disroot.org wrote:
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> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat wrote:
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>> On 01/10/2024 15:08, swisscows wrote:
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>> Is this a common problem in the US? This is an honest question. I've 
>> had my run ins with mainly arabian robbers and assailants, but 
>> nothing serious ever happened and I managed to defend myself. 
>> _Despite_ probably having experienced way more violence than the 
>> average sweden, I would not even dream of walking around with a 
>> camera. It would not solve anything, and given the level of 
>> intelligence of the people involved in this incident, as well as laws 
>> against filming in public, I don't think it would work.
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>> Who has such laws? (in the democratic west, I mean, of course. This 
>> discussion obviously doesn't apply to authoritarian countries,
>> where 'the law' is whatever the local despot decides it is).
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>> Filming in public is perfectly legal (as it should be) in the UK, the 
>> US, and Sweden, as far as I'm aware.
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>> Ben
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> In sweden and the EU it depends on what you do with it. If you film 
> and then store the film and never do anything with it or show it, it 
> is most likely ok. If you film, in sweden, a object of national 
> interest (airports, harbors, military bases etc.) you are commiting a 
> crime and will be fined and/or sent to prison. This is a new law that 
> came into effect on the 1/1 2024.
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> If you film people so that they can be identified and make that film 
> publicly available, you are breaking GDPR if you do not get their 
> consent.
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> Putting up CCTV cameras, again filming in public, is strictly 
> regulated, and having your Tesla parked regularly on your street with 
> an active camera could possibly break that rule.
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> So when it comes to the US I have no illusion of privacy protection 
> existing. UK I have no idea, but since London is full of CCTV cameras 
> I would assume that any protection for the privacy of people has been 
> eroded.
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> But above is based on my knowledge of sweden and swedish law, as a swede.

That's interesting.

And it makes me wonder about the millions of doorbell cameras that 
automatically stream images of the street (and the people on it) to 
cloud servers scattered all over the world, including places like China 
and Russia. How do you 'strictly regulate' that??

Or are these cameras not allowed in Sweden?

In the UK and US, I think the principle is the same as anything you post 
on the internet: Regardless of the theory (the law, industry 
regulations, codes of practice, terms of use, etc.), in reality you have 
no expectation of privacy. GDPR is meaningless, it's like a sticking 
plaster on a sharkbite.

Ben
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