[ExI] Machines of Loving Grace

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On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat wrote:

> 
> On 13/10/2024 20:41, Daniel wrote:
>
>       On Sun, 13 Oct 2024, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat wrote:
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>             As with a number of other transhumanist-themed ideas, I think we have
>             to be very careful of the language we use, because it can easily be
>             misunderstood.
>
>             The difference between "going biologically extinct" and "going
>             extinct" is probably not going to be appreciated by most people.
>
>             Can we come up with an alternative term or phrase that won't
>             automatically make people hostile to the idea of uploading?
>
>             I'm thinking about something that includes the idea of 'migration'
>             rather than 'extinction'. Movement rather than death.
>
>             Ben
> 
>
>       Why do you think hostility will be a problem when it comes to uploading
>       as long as it is a voluntary procedure that will not affect anyone else?
> 
> 
> You're thinking of after uploading is a thing. I'm thinking of how we make it a thing.
> 
> I have no problem if someone doesn't want to upload when it's an option. I have a big problem with someone wanting to block the
> development of uploading.
> 
> There are parallels with genetic engineering, as well as stem-cell research. If you want to decline to take advantages of the things
> a technology enables, no problem. But the development of these technologies has been greatly hindered by people who not only don't
> want it for themselves, but don't want anyone else to have it either.
> 
> The perception of something before it exists has a much greater impact than the perception of it once it does exist.
> 
> Ben

Ahh, got it. Yes, then it makes more sense, given the enormous amount of 
resistance to GMO, stem-cells etc. I was not aware of any such strong 
opinions about uploading, on the other hand, I would definitely not be 
surprised at all, if such resistance came into being.