[ExI] Machines of Loving Grace

[Keith Henson]

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 2:33 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 3:56 PM Keith Henson via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 10:10 AM efc--- via extropy-chat
>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> > Yes, I think that forking, and clones + merges are interesting concepts
>> > which could perhaps be thought of as "children" in a way, in that remote
>> > future.
>>
>> I don't think copies will be permitted in the future.  Think we have a
>> population problem now?  Doubles in 15 years.  Imagine doubling in 15
>> minutes.
>
> Who's going to stop me?

The copy machines.

> The cops?  By the time they found out, there'd be too many of me to arrest - and any they don't catch, can just keep duplicating.

Is this a good idea?  Or should there be general agreement that it is
a bad idea?  Robin Hanson and I argued over this point years ago.  His
thought was that uploads would be copied till the value of whatever
they could do fell to zero.

I don't know how much economics will be a factor in the future, but if
it is, doubling reduces your resources by half.  Who gets the bank
account and the wife?

> Assuming it really does only take 15 minutes with negligible material and energy costs.

In the uploaded state, another instance should take very little time
and materials, but it reduces the computational resources per
instance.

If you can make a case for flooding with copies, I would like to read it.

Keith



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