[ExI] Machines of Loving Grace

[Keith Henson]

I discussed why people would have to upload into a shared simulation here.

https://web.archive.org/web/20121130232045/http://hplusmagazine.com/2012/04/12/transhumanism-and-the-human-expansion-into-space-a-conflict-with-physics/

A fast-thinking brain in an android body would be like a fly mired in honey.


Keith

On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 4:09 AM efc--- via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat wrote:
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> > On 13/10/2024 20:41, Keith Hensen wrote:
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> > On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 10:18 AM efc--- via extropy-chat
> > <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> > Why do you think hostility will be a problem when it comes to uploading
> > as long as it is a voluntary procedure that will not affect anyone else?
> > It depends.  If a high fraction of the population uploads, there will
> > be a social collapse.  At some point, the social system fails and the
> > remaining people will move away from ghost towns.
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> > One thing nobody seems to consider is the possibility of uploading into a new artificial brain, in control of a synthetic body,
> > instead of into a large, shared computing system. That way, there would still be physical people around in the physical world. They'd
> > have the advantages of both situations, seeing as their new brains should be easily capable of connecting to computer systems and
> > experiencing virtual worlds as well as the real world. Their 'ecological footprint' would probably be smaller than biological humans
> > as well.
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> > I could see 'uploading to an android' being a popular option, and a lot less scary for some people than uploading to a server. It
> > would also (potentially) solve the tricky problem of who owns and controls the hardware that your mind runs on.
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> > Ben
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> I considered it in my post. ;) Also recently finished the book Software by
> Rudy Rucker where such themes are discussed.
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> For me personally, uploading myself into a robot, would at least
> initially, be far more interesting and desirable, than uploading myself
> into some kind of mainframe fantasy land.
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> Since the mind would be software anyway, I would expect to be able to
> "peak into" fantasy land if I so wished anyway (or the reverse).
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> I could imagine that after a few 100 or 1000 years in the real world,
> maybe things would get boring, and the mainframe fantasyland might be were
> the story would end.
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> Hence my previous post about stagnation possibly being a problem in such
> scenarios. I think we know too little about our brains at the moment, to
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