[ExI] [Extropolis] Re: Musk set up 100,000 Nvidia H200 GPUs in 19 days - Nvidia says ​it normally takes 4 years

[Keith Henson]

On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 4:49 AM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 12:49 AM Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> >> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 7:22 PM Will Steinberg <steinberg.will at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I just think you are being reductive and elitist.  You should do some LSD or something.
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>> >I will skip responding to this.
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> I don't blame you one bit.
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>> > I have a nice guy reputation to uphold.
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> And as far as I can tell you are indeed a nice guy. However I do think you're overestimating the power of Evolutionary Psychology, it can you give us a few broad trends and drives, such as a drive to reproduce, but it can't possibly give the details about how we should behave in every conceivable circumstance to achieve that goal because the entire human genome only contains 750 megs of information (3 billion base pairs, there are 4 bases and there are 8 bits per byte); and that is far FAR FAR too small to write a book of instructions about how to behave in all circumstances. So instead evolution invented an information processing device, the brain, to process the data it received from the senses and calculate the details of how to behave.

Agree.  But there is a lot of bias built into the brain constructed by
genes.  All the way from simple reflexes to our unease at walking
along a cliff edge to the capture bonding behavior.  It's not hard to
understand how these came about through selection.

> But sometimes those details weren't what Evolution had in mind, if Evolution had a mind, which it doesn't. Evolutionary Psychology alone cannot explain the invention of the condom,

True.  If for no other reason, latex was not part of the Stone Age environment.

> and I don't think it can explain why Trump and his MAGA/QAnon form of irrationality metastasized in 2016 and not in some other year.

If you go back much further, there were neo nazi upsurges in the
Midwest that corresponded to economic downturns over decades.  I wrote
about these cases in the context of memes long before I ran into EP.
But your point why then is valid.  Self-amplifying memes might provide
a random factor.  To some extent, we don't know enough.  For example,
very few people are aware that there was a food shortage bad enough to
stunt kids prior to the Civil War.

Humans have been facing resource limitations for at least 100,000
years and solving them by going to war.  Is this enough generations to
have selected for the response?

I think so, but if humans and war is an uncomfortable topic, we could
switch to capture-bonding.

Keith

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