[ExI] [Extropolis] Re: Musk set up 100,000 Nvidia H200 GPUs in 19 days - Nvidia says it normally takes 4 years
Keith Henson
hkeithhenson at gmail.com
Wed Oct 23 20:52:29 UTC 2024
On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 1:05 PM Will Steinberg <steinberg.will at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Vulnerability to groupthink is common, it just happens that cults are small, insular groups.
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> The insanity around covid and how crappy untested vaccines made by giant amoral pharma corporations
A corporation that produces a billion or so doses of anything has to
be giant. Amoral is a feature of corporations. "Crappy untested", the
MRNA vaccines were and still are the best vaccines in the world at
generating antibodies to covid. The testing was the best they could
do given the time pressure of both people dying and the economic
damage the pandemic was causing.
A legitimate question is what you would have done differently?
Keith
PS Not everything on the Internet is true.
were pushed on people with the threat of total ostracization and
prevention from moving through society was cult-like. It was just a
cult that was so big it became mainstream.
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> On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 1:46 PM Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Re brave, that was not exactly what happened. I got a couple of
>> academic publications out of the experience, but duking it out with
>> the clam cult was not a good idea. I got sucked into the fight
>> defending free speech. it wasn't a good idea personally. That cult
>> is smaller now and has less influence, but it still had enough to get
>> an FBI investigation into their internal prisons and human trafficking
>> (slavery) shut down.
>>
>> Someone went after the FBI with FOIA. If you want to read the report,
>> it is available.
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>> My big disappointment is that (so far) understanding the evolved
>> psychological traits that make people vulnerable to cults has not
>> resulted in interventions.
>>
>> Keith
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>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 5:28 AM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 10:10 PM Will Steinberg spewed out this crap:
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>> >> > I pity people like you. For fuck’s sake. I pity people like you. You’re just as much of an NPC as the people you seem to consider mindless animals at the whims of their most base urges. [ ...] People like you guys are a perfect model of where I don’t want to end up intellectually as I age.
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>> > By "people like you" and "people like you guys" I assume you're referring to Keith Henson and me, if so then I'm proud to be placed in the same category as Keith. And if there's one thing in this world you can be absolutely certain of its that if somebody says "I pity you" then you can be 100% certain that person is LYING and that they do NOT pity you because if they actually did pity you then saying it to the person you claim to pity would be the very last thing in the world you would want to say. It is even more obvious that the words spoken are a lie if they are uttered in the middle of a heated argument.
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>> > Keith Henson then calmly, intelligently, politely and with more patience than I have responded to Will's blather with this:
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>> >> > I don't know if you have ever had experience with cult members. I have had with the scientology cult.
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>> > Yes I agree, you've had some experience with the scientology cult, in fact I'd call that one of the great understatements of all time! And Keith, you're a braver man than I am, braver by far! I think Will Steinberg needs to educate himself, he might start by reading the Wikipedia article about you. By the way, I know it wasn't your fault but I always regretted that they changed the name of the L5 Society to the much more forgettable National Space Society.
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>> > Keith Henson
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>> > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis
>> > epb
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