[ExI] AI moves away from thinking like humans
Will Steinberg
steinberg.will at gmail.com
Sun Sep 29 14:39:23 UTC 2024
I just don’t think the article is saying much. Maybe AI will replace vapid
navel-gazing thinkpieces like this. Nothing new here.
On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 10:11 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> I'm calling foul on that article title.
>
> "Moves away" says that this is definitely currently happening right now.
> The article text only speaks about what might possibly happen in the
> future, with no evidence cited of it happening right now.
>
> For example: sure, they won't run the exact same experiments, because
> those experiments have already been run and the AIs can learn from the
> results. But the same "kinds"? One could semantically argue "the same
> kinds of experiments that helped humans master the materials and forces of
> energy sources around them" into effectively being "literally only those
> experiments that were run before AIs", which is a useless type of "kind"
> for the point trying to be made.
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 9:36 AM BillK via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> AI begins its ominous split away from human thinking
>> By Loz Blain September 29, 2024
>>
>> <https://newatlas.com/ai-humanoids/ai-rl-human-thinking/>
>> Quotes:
>> Freed from the crude human musings of Newton, and Einstein, and
>> Hawking, embodied AIs will take a bizarre AlphaGo-style approach to
>> understanding the world. They'll poke and prod at reality, and observe
>> the results, and build up their own theories in their own languages
>> about what works, what doesn't, and why.
>>
>> They won't approach reality like humans or animals do. They won't use
>> a scientific method like ours, or split things into disciplines like
>> physics and chemistry, or run the same kinds of experiments that
>> helped humans master the materials and forces and energy sources
>> around them and dominate the world.
>>
>> OpenAI's o1 model might not look like a quantum leap forward, sitting
>> there in GPT's drab textual clothing, looking like just another
>> invisible terminal typist. But it really is a step-change in the
>> development of AI – and a fleeting glimpse into exactly how these
>> alien machines will eventually overtake humans in every conceivable
>> way.
>> -----------------------
>>
>> Sings — "This Could Be the Start of Something Big".........
>>
>> BillK
>>
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