[ExI] AI moves away from thinking like humans

[Adrian Tymes]

For all we know, an AI might have written this piece, or most of it.

On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 10:41 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> I just don’t think the article is saying much.  Maybe AI will replace
> vapid navel-gazing thinkpieces like this.  Nothing new here.
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 10:11 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm calling foul on that article title.
>>
>> "Moves away" says that this is definitely currently happening right now.
>> The article text only speaks about what might possibly happen in the
>> future, with no evidence cited of it happening right now.
>>
>> For example: sure, they won't run the exact same experiments, because
>> those experiments have already been run and the AIs can learn from the
>> results.  But the same "kinds"?  One could semantically argue "the same
>> kinds of experiments that helped humans master the materials and forces of
>> energy sources around them" into effectively being "literally only those
>> experiments that were run before AIs", which is a useless type of "kind"
>> for the point trying to be made.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 9:36 AM BillK via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> AI begins its ominous split away from human thinking
>>> By Loz Blain    September 29, 2024
>>>
>>> <https://newatlas.com/ai-humanoids/ai-rl-human-thinking/>
>>> Quotes:
>>> Freed from the crude human musings of Newton, and Einstein, and
>>> Hawking, embodied AIs will take a bizarre AlphaGo-style approach to
>>> understanding the world. They'll poke and prod at reality, and observe
>>> the results, and build up their own theories in their own languages
>>> about what works, what doesn't, and why.
>>>
>>> They won't approach reality like humans or animals do. They won't use
>>> a scientific method like ours, or split things into disciplines like
>>> physics and chemistry, or run the same kinds of experiments that
>>> helped humans master the materials and forces and energy sources
>>> around them and dominate the world.
>>>
>>> OpenAI's o1 model might not look like a quantum leap forward, sitting
>>> there in GPT's drab textual clothing, looking like just another
>>> invisible terminal typist. But it really is a step-change in the
>>> development of AI – and a fleeting glimpse into exactly how these
>>> alien machines will eventually overtake humans in every conceivable
>>> way.
>>> -----------------------
>>>
>>> Sings — "This Could Be the Start of Something Big".........
>>>
>>> BillK
>>>
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