[ExI] why do we still need mainstream news media?

[John Clark]

On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 10:37 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

*> This one guy has blown the lid off of this story, which has been around
> for a long time, several years.  Reporters wrote about it, but nothing
> happened.  Now… one video, 120 million views in four days.*


*But that one guy would never have been able to do that if the mainstream
news hadn't discovered and reported on the story long before he did.  *

*> but nothing happened.  Now… one video, 120 million views in four days.*


*And MrBeast has amassed over 105 billion views, but other than taking
credit for what others had discovered, what exactly has Nick Shirley
accomplished?*

*John K Clark*






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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
> Of *Mike Dougherty via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] why do we still need mainstream news media?
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> On Mon, Dec 29, 2025, 9:27 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>  A 23 yr old amateur found what the mainstream news media would never talk
> about.
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>  Note this video was has 121 million views in four days:
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> https://x.com/i/status/2004642794862961123
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>  So why do we still need mainstream news?
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> >... to measure their spin as a point of reference for other streams?
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> I am not sure I understand that comment, but if an amateur investigative
> journalist can do all this, I no longer see any useful function of the
> professional news people.
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> >…Or wait, didja mean production of mainstream media?
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> Ja, sure did.
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> >… If there were no MSM, there would still be mainstream 'views' as in +/-
> 1 STDEV from the distribution of all views available…
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> OK but… they cost a lot of money to produce.  Amateurs can produce stories
> like that link, for almost nothing, and the viewership is thru the roof,
> something 60 Minutes could only dream of.
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> This one guy has blown the lid off of this story, which has been around
> for a long time, several years.  Reporters wrote about it, but nothing
> happened.  Now… one video, 120 million views in four days.
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> >…but I guess it's still easier to track the fewer MSM programming
> channels…
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> The viewer count is still going up more than a million views per hour.
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> Advertisers paying for those MSM channels are seeing this and asking
> themselves why they are wasting money on the establishment.  This was a
> turning point.  Now… we collectively realize why TwitterX is so valuable,
> waaaaay more than the paltry 45 billion it sold for recently.  That place
> is now the world’s newspapers, the world’s news television.  There is no
> further reason to bother with mainstream media, none.  The citizen reporter
> vision has become reality.
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> spike
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