[ExI] Do you have a secret family pass phrase?

[Brent Allsop]

Thanks, Kelly and Adrian, for your interesting and helpful comments.



On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 4:59 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 5:27 AM Kelly Anderson via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 4:49 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat
>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> >She had a baby daughter
>> >from an abusive husband, when she traveled to the US, then to Utah,
>> shortly
>> >after becoming a Mormon.  She met someone on the way there, who also had
>> >recently converted to Mormonism.  They got married on the way to Utah,
>> then
>> >in Utah, when the baby daughter turned 16, he married her as a second
>> polygamus wife.
>> >She was my great great grandmother, also married at the same time to my
>> great great grandfather.
>>
>> I'm not sure why that seems awful... I know a lot of polygamists
>> married two sisters, and that doesn't strike me as so bad... but this
>> is kind of yuck. Not sure why, exactly.
>>
>
> One reason might be the degree of inbreeding, which many people find yucky
> on an instinctive level.  In the former case there is no inbreeding, or at
> least no more than the monogamous case of the guy marrying (and thus having
> kids with) only one of the sisters.  In the latter, it fits the definition.
>
> There is also the implication that the daughter may have essentially been
> groomed to become the guy's second wife, which is widely seen as a form of
> child abuse (among those who ever conceive of someone doing that; I suspect
> the majority of humanity never has reason for that mental picture to enter
> their minds).  Child abuse is likewise widely considered yucky on an
> instinctive level (to the point that abusers generally find reasons -
> however flimsy - why they do not consider their own actions to be abuse, or
> avoid considering the question).
>
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