[ExI] The Big Black Hole Question

[Stuart LaForge]

On 2025-07-10 09:59, scerir via extropy-chat wrote:
>> Regarding the astronomy use of the term, it is fun to think about.  
>> Under
>> sufficient pressure, gravity overpowers everything and electrons are 
>> pushed
>> into the protons, which form neutrons, kerBOOM, supernova, result, 
>> huge ball
>> of neutrons.  COOL!  But... what if that neutron star is so big, it 
>> crushes
>> the neutrons?  What do neutrons crush into?  We don't know.  Our 
>> equations
>> fail us.  It's all a big virtual reality, I tells ye.  Wicked, evil it 
>> is.
>> The devil invented the whole system.  Rage against it.
>> 
>> spike
> 
> Quark stars are possible.
> 
> But I remember that Daniel Greenberger wrote about an interesting 
> uncertainty principle: delta m x delta tau > h, where m is mass and tau 
> is proper time. In his theory, proper time and mass are physical 
> quantities measured in a particular system of reference: the particle 
> rest frame. Therefore, the proper time uncertainty delta tau expresses 
> the standard deviation of measures from external frames of the reading 
> an imaginary clock situated on the particle.
> 
> Interesting the deep connection between mass and (proper) time.

Very interesting. Thanks for bringing Daniel Greenberger to my 
attention. The GHZ experiment absolutely destroys local realism without 
any of the statistical loopholes of Bell inequality. I am trying to wrap 
my head around the notion of there being wave functions and operators 
for mass and proper time. Most notably because both rest mass and proper 
time are Lorentz invariant so they are generally thought of as intrinsic 
properties of a particle instead of dynamic variable that depends on 
"when and where" you observe it.

Stuart LaForge