[ExI] need a new name

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at gmail.com
Sat Jun 28 17:56:40 UTC 2025


Hi Spike,
For sure, this is definitely needed.

We're building and tracking consensus on both sides of this issue with the
currently terribly named "Should we fear AI
<https://canonizer.com/topic/16-Should-we-fear-AI/1-Agreement?is_tree_open=1>"
topic on Canonizer.
There is of course the supper camp that both sides agree on that AI "Will
Surpass Current Humans
<https://canonizer.com/topic/16-Should-we-fear-AI/8-Will-Surpass-current-humans?is_tree_open=1>
".
Then there are the two main competing sub camps:

   1. Such Concern is Mistaken (61%)
   <https://canonizer.com/topic/16-Should-we-fear-AI/3-Such-Concern-Is-Mistaken?is_tree_open=1>
   2. Friendly AI is sensible (33%)
   <https://canonizer.com/topic/16-Should-we-fear-AI/9-FriendlyAIisSensible?is_tree_open=1>

And these are just terrible names.  We've changed the names of these camps
a few times, but I still can't think of the way better names we need to
communicate effectively to everyone what they mean.
The statements on each side could also be significantly improved.  Is
making the focus on 'friendliness" the right focus?  I think not and going
with "alignment" isn't any better is it?  And of course I'm always building
and tracking consensus around my petition sub camp (with 15% of the vote): "AI
can only be friendly
<https://canonizer.com/topic/16-Should-we-fear-AI/2-AI-can-only-be-friendly?is_tree_open=1>"
as to me "intelligence" will necessarily be good/friendly.  bad
intelligence just doesn't make logical sense to me.

Of course, canonizer.com is the best place to build and track consensus
around such things as good names.









On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 11:09 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> We need a new name for this school of thought besides AI
> Notkilleveryoneism:
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> AI Notkilleveryoneism Memes ⏸️ on X: "1) For the first time, an
> autonomous drone defeated the top human pilots in an international drone
> racing competition 2) Drones are now ***70%*** of battlefield casualties in
> the Ukraine war Tick. Tock. https://t.co/94qqAvPyAc" / X
> <https://x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1932465150151270644?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email>
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> Suggestions?
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> Could there be subcategories, such as AI
> EveryoneDamnSureHOPESAINotkilleveryoneism?  That one is even more in need
> of a shorter name.
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> spike
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