[ExI] need a new name

[spike at rainier66.com]

I don’t know what to think really.  I have long thought of the chess world, where computers surpassed all humans in the 1990s, yet we still have professional chess players.  Now of course AI is going to be used for defense.  I will make the case, later today perhaps but more likely in the next few days, that we can imagine a case where AI will guide weapons to destroy other weapons.  

 

spike

 

From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of Brent Allsop via extropy-chat
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Subject: Re: [ExI] need a new name

 

 

Hi Spike,

For sure, this is definitely needed.

 

We're building and tracking consensus on both sides of this issue with the currently terribly named "Should we fear AI <https://canonizer.com/topic/16-Should-we-fear-AI/1-Agreement?is_tree_open=1> " topic on Canonizer.

There is of course the supper camp that both sides agree on that AI "Will Surpass Current Humans <https://canonizer.com/topic/16-Should-we-fear-AI/8-Will-Surpass-current-humans?is_tree_open=1> ".

Then there are the two main competing sub camps:

1.	Such Concern is Mistaken (61%) <https://canonizer.com/topic/16-Should-we-fear-AI/3-Such-Concern-Is-Mistaken?is_tree_open=1> 
2.	Friendly AI is sensible (33%) <https://canonizer.com/topic/16-Should-we-fear-AI/9-FriendlyAIisSensible?is_tree_open=1> 

And these are just terrible names.  We've changed the names of these camps a few times, but I still can't think of the way better names we need to communicate effectively to everyone what they mean.

The statements on each side could also be significantly improved.  Is making the focus on 'friendliness" the right focus?  I think not and going with "alignment" isn't any better is it?  And of course I'm always building and tracking consensus around my petition sub camp (with 15% of the vote): "AI can only be friendly <https://canonizer.com/topic/16-Should-we-fear-AI/2-AI-can-only-be-friendly?is_tree_open=1> " as to me "intelligence" will necessarily be good/friendly.  bad intelligence just doesn't make logical sense to me.

 

Of course, canonizer.com <http://canonizer.com>  is the best place to build and track consensus around such things as good names.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 11:09 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> > wrote:

 

 

We need a new name for this school of thought besides AI Notkilleveryoneism:

 

AI Notkilleveryoneism Memes  <https://x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1932465150151270644?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email> ⏸️ on X: "1) For the first time, an autonomous drone defeated the top human pilots in an international drone racing competition 2) Drones are now ***70%*** of battlefield casualties in the Ukraine war Tick. Tock. https://t.co/94qqAvPyAc" / X

 

Suggestions?

 

Could there be subcategories, such as AI EveryoneDamnSureHOPESAINotkilleveryoneism?  That one is even more in need of a shorter name.

 

spike

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