[ExI] Gender-Neutral Side Note

[spike at rainier66.com]

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From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of Tara Maya via extropy-chat
Sent: Thursday, 6 November, 2025 11:12 AM
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Cc: Tara Maya <tara at taramayastales.com>
Subject: Re: [ExI] Gender-Neutral Side Note

The problem is that “they” has already become the de facto neutral third person, mirroring the “thee / thou” being replaced for singular and plural “you.”

If the pattern continues, English will do away with “me / I” and we will always refer to ourselves with the royal “we” all the time. 

As for ourself of course, we already do so. ��

Tara Maya






Tara, excellent, you are the kind of person I was hoping to respond: those who (I am guessing) are specifically XX.  Note I am making exactly zero assumptions or inquiries beyond the perfectly unambiguous configuration of your chromosomes, something that can be objectively verified or refuted with a microscope.  I am a big fan of objective truth.

If we revert to (or return to) him and he as neo-genderless, winning back the very useful singular/plural indicator on them and they, do you feel excluded in any way?  I am guessing you don't feel that way at all, that you understand why I am suggesting de-masculinizing men and man, he and him, which refeminizes her and she in a way.  It is not exclusionary, it is inclusionary.  It is a way to clean up an intentionally-introduced language flaw that just didn't work out all that well.  Tara, we still love XX people, we men and malemen are pleased you haven't left the forum.

spike













> On Nov 6, 2025, at 11:06, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> 
> On 06/11/2025 17:40, spike wrote:
>> Side note: I also propose returning the pronouns he and him to genderless...