[ExI] Google’s Willow Quantum Chip: Proof of the Multiverse?

[John Clark]

On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 8:29 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:


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> * > I don't think human brains are wired up in a way that will ever allow
>> them to make quantum mechanics seem intuitively obvious, things might be
>> different for Mr. Jupiter Brain.*
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I don't think the problem is primarily biological.


*It would be surprising if biology is not at least part of the problem.
Over several million years Evolution designed our brain to maximize the
probability of getting our genes into the next generation even though we
are one of the slowest and weakest animals on the African savanna. Having a
deep intuitive understanding of how all the possible quantum states in
Hilbert space (vectors called "kets") evolve according to Schrodinger's
equation, would be of little help in catching a zebra or avoiding a lion.
We don't even have an inborn understanding of how fractions work, we need
to be carefully taught, and even then children find fractions more
difficult to understand than integers. And Schrodinger's equation contains
imaginary numbers!  *

* >> I can't prove that superdeterminism is wrong but as I've said before,
>> I can prove that superdeterminism is silly. The greater the violation of
>> Occam's razor that your theory needs to be true the sillier it is, and by
>> that metric it would be impossible to be sillier than superdeterminism.*
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> * Sure it is.  Assuming the existence of other universes that
> magically split apart*


*Magically? If voodoo had a differential equation that explained exactly
how it worked, if there were a Fundamental Theorem of Voodoo, then voodoo
would not be magic, it would be science and people would be receiving Nobel
prizes for making advances in voodoo. The big difference between science
and magic is that science works but magic doesn't. *


> *> and can never interact with ours, and yet still manage to produce
> results we can observe anyway, seems sillier.*
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*In order to work, Many Worlds needs to make exactly ONE assumption,
Schrodinger's equation means what it says. In order to work,
superdeterminism needs, at a minimum, to make an astronomical number to an
astronomical power number of assumptions, and possibly an infinite number
of assumptions. *

*And as I've already said, if the experiments that are currently underway
are successful and show that the quantum wave really does objectively
collapse then Many Worlds will have been proven to be wrong. But there is
no way, even in theory, that an experiment could ever prove that
superdeterminism is wrong because if it is right then the scientific method
simply doesn't work, and the fact that it had seemed to work until now was
just an EXTREMELY unlikely coincidence. *

*You don't think that's silly? *

*John K Clark*
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