[ExI] day 3

[Brent Allsop]

I had a Porsche Tycan, then a Lucid.
A standard 120 volt plug would take days to charge.
A standard 240 volt plug would take hours.
And a high amperage charger would start out fast.  You could get the first
50% of charge in about 10 minutes.  then things heat up and slow down, but
still relatively fast.



On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 6:05 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
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> Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat
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> Subject: Re: [ExI] day 3
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> Compare that to use percentage, same time of day in similar neighborhood
> (including proximity to typical commutes), for gas stations.
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> Granted, home-and-work charging means that there's less demand for
> on-the-road charging.  There aren't as many workplaces, let alone homes,
> which offer on-site gasoline refueling.
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> Adrian I just went by the No-Musk station for the second time today, time
> 1630.  No customers.
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> To estimate this demand correctly, we would need to know the fraction of
> cars which are No-Musk EVs and how long those take to charge.  I have a
> neighbor with a Rivian, so I might be able to find out the second
> question.  On the first question: this is tricky.  There are plenty of
> No-Musks, but it is harder to count them than it is to count the Yes-Musks,
> since Tesla only has about five models.
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> Of real interest to me is how much power a data center devours per...
> what?  What is the relevant unit?  Are those things huge buildings filled
> with NVidea GPU processors?  What are they calculating?  I see that NVidea
> high end processors use a ton of power: 400 to 1000 W, dang.  My strategy
> might not work: encourage the masses to buy EVs, then add all the power
> infrastructure needed to support all that, then when the demand for power
> gets high enough because of the runup to the Singularity, the EV drivers
> park or get ICE buggies, freeing up all that electric power capacity.  If
> the faceless masses don't get EVs, the strategy won't work.
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> Does anyone here have a No-Musk EV?  How long do those take to charge on a
> standard charger?  How about on a high-speed?
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> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 10:00 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
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> > I rolled by the non-Musk charging station, time 0650.  Number of
> customers: zero.
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> > Damn.
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> > spike
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