[ExI] Gender-Neutral Side Note

[Keith Henson]

On Sat, Nov 15, 2025 at 1:36 PM spike jones via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> From: John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com>
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> > until one is convicted of a crime, one is presumed innocent of that crime.
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> >…And Mr. I Like To Grab Them By The Pussy WAS convicted of a felony, 34 times….

> Oh?  Do you know what is this felony?  Last time I asked you didn’t know.  You referred me to the internet, which didn’t know.  Plenty of opinion on the subject.  But the court didn’t tell us.  Are you suggesting the defendant was convicted of grabbing them by the pussy?  When?  Where?  How did they keep that case secret so effectively?
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> >… He Who Must Not Be Named HAS been convicted 34 times in a court of law…
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> Convicted of what please?  Do you know?  Why don’t you know?  Are you going to punt again on that?
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> >… But in a free country individual people are allowed to form their own opinion on the matter of guilt or innocence at any time.
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> John K Clark
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> Agreed.  However, in court of law, we need more discipline than an opinion.  We intentionally write the rules to insure we do not convict innocent people.  We intentionally make sure we do not convict people of a felony for a misdemeanor because we need the conviction for another purpose, such as political warfare, or because we don’t like what they say.
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> That case you refer to is one which Libertarians heard loud and clear.  It was perfectly obvious that they needed a second conviction before they could leverage a misdemeanor into a felony.  They didn’t have the other crime.  They have never showed us the conviction from the mystery other crime, hell, they never even told us what it was.  So now, you don’t know, the internet doesn’t know, the jury doesn’t know.  All we have are opinions.  Opinions are measured by votes.  Clearly you are in the minority opinion John.

Did you look at the Wikipedia article I posted upthread?

In terms of the current situation, I am with John.  However, I am
extremely reluctant to say anything.  You know my history of tangling
with a cult.  When a cult gets control of the legal system, you are
lucky to get off with bankruptcy, becoming a refugee, and being
jailed.

I could say a lot more, but I will not due to outright fear.

Keith

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