[ExI] discipline and consistency

John Clark johnkclark at gmail.com
Tue Nov 18 12:58:47 UTC 2025


On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 9:02 PM Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com> wrote:


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> *> the negatives have been expressed by Eliezer.  The positives have been
> discussed on this list since 1993.  My take is that it will happen
> regardless, so we take our chances with the bad outcomes and get the good
> sooner. *


*That is also my opinion.  *


> *> Of course, I could be utterly wrong.*
>

*Yeah, all we can do is play the odds and hope for the best.  *

* >> I think our chances of coming out of the other side of the Singularity
>> meat grinder in one piece will be slightly greater if the US not China
>> builds the progenitor of MR. Jupiter Brain. Somebody somewhere is certain
>> to build it, it's only a matter of time.*
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> * > While I agree with you, I don't think it will make a lot of
> difference which culture builds AIs. *


*The difference might be small but I'm almost certain our chances of
survival would NOT be better if China wins the AI race.  *


*John K Clark*







> >
> > This would be a very good time to start a war with Venezuela, it would
> distract voters from the Epstein files. Speaking of that, just a few hours
> ago, after vigorously lobbying members of Congress for months to keep that
> file closed, the convicted felon suddenly reversed course by 180 degrees
> and now says Congress should vote to release the files. I think Jeffrey
> Epstein's best friend knew that despite his best efforts his lobbying
> effort had failed and that information was going to be made public, so he
> wanted to make it seem like it was his idea to do so.
> >
> > John K Clark
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