[ExI] Free Trade

[John Clark]

On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 4:48 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:

*> From Jan 2021 to Jan 2023, the current stay-closed party held all three
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*As you pointed out you need 60% to get anything done in the Senate, and
the Democrats never had anything close to that.  **And the Republicans
still had control of the Supreme Court. By the way, did you know that the
US constitution does NOT say one word about political parties? And yet now
it seems that half the population consider themselves to be a Republican
first and an American second.  *

*> One would think they would have taken that golden opportunity to
> negotiate from a position of strength the problems you point out.*


*They tried but the Republicans refuse to negotiate with the Democrats on
ANYTHING, I suppose because it's a sin to negotiate with SATAN regardless
of if you're in a position of strength or weakness. *

*> We can scarcely expect them to negotiate now, from a position of
> weakness. *


*But you expect the Democrats the cave in and then negotiate from a
position of weakness. What the Republicans mean by "negotiation" is "my way
or the highway". *

*John K Clark *






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> *From:* John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, 17 October, 2025 1:35 PM
> *To:* spike at rainier66.com
> *Cc:* ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] Free Trade
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> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 4:20 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
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> *> **Tell my senators what you told us, urge them to vote open-now, then
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> and they won't, then they certainly won't negotiate if the Democrats give
> in and the government reopens.  After all, they had plenty of time to
> negotiate with the Democrats before the shutdown happened, but they refused
> to have anything to do with them, I guess because the Democrats are the
> party of hate, evil, AND SATAN*.
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> *Well Joh, I am not a religious type, so I stop well short of the SATAN
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> *We can scarcely expect them to negotiate now, from a position of
> weakness.  Do explain please your indicating that this makes them evil and
> the rest of the religion stuff in your concluding sentence.*
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> *From:* John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com>
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> *>>… **So you are telling us the Affordable Care Act is a failure John? *
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> *>…I'm telling you the Affordable Care Act would have been one hell of a
> lot better if the Republicans hadn't crippled it…*
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> *Easy solution: vote to reopen government, negotiate to fix it.  Simple.
> They can’t fix it while shut down.*
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> *>>… **Easy solution John: do something now.  Write to your senator,
> pressure the stay-closed party to vote with those evil open-nowers.  They
> only need five of them.  Open now, let the Affordable Care Act do its magic
> as they told us it would do when it was passed.*
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> *>…I have no idea what you mean by that.  John K Clark*
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> *OK clarification: contact your senators (OK not YOUR senators John, for
> both of them are voting to reopen now (but you could contact both of my
> senators (who both voted to stay closed (forever if necessary.))))  Tell my
> senators what you told us, urge them to vote open-now, then negotiate with
> the open-nowers to fix the crippledness of the Affordable Care Act.*
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