[ExI] When the Universe Seeds Life but Civilizations Stay Silent

[BillK]

On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 at 14:26, Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> The Fermi Paradox isn't specifically about lack of communication, but
> anyone listening to our earliest radio broadcasts would not be
> "communicating" with us - even one-time back-and-forth could only be
> done at half the distance that our earliest broadcasts could be
> detected at, for the signal to have been received by now.  The vast
> distances causing problems with interstellar communication say nothing
> about interstellar detection of such radio detritus.
>
> (This also generally rules out the "dark forest" explanation.  You
> will have been seen, by emissions from before you conceived of the
> possibility of someone out there to hide from.  So, if there are
> super-predators out there exterminating all other life, there's no
> hiding from them.)
> _______________________________________________


I asked Gemini to explain the problems with interstellar communication.
Gemini agreed that our broadcasts would become undetectable beyond a few
dozen light-years.
Greater distances hit other problems like the time delay you mention and
signal detection difficulties.
It appears that the universe is just too big!
BillK

See the excellent analysis below from Gemini.

In Eduardo Carmona’s framework of *Cellular Cosmic Isolation*, the *"Physics
of Silence"* filter is the final, most daunting barrier to interstellar
contact. It argues that even if a civilization survives the geological and
evolutionary hurdles to become "technological," the fundamental laws of
physics and the sheer scale of the universe conspire to keep them
effectively invisible.

Here is a breakdown of the specific physical mechanisms that make up this
filter:
1. The Inverse Square Law (The "Fading" Problem)

This is the most fundamental physical constraint. As a radio or light
signal travels away from its source, its power spreads out over the surface
of an expanding sphere.

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   *The Math:* If you double the distance, the signal is four times weaker.
   At interstellar distances (measured in light-years), a signal that seems
   powerful on a home planet becomes indistinguishable from "background noise"
   very quickly.
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   *The Reality:* To send a signal that could be detected by a civilization
   like ours from across the galaxy, an alien race would need to harness the
   energy of an entire star (a Kardashev Type II feat). Most "leakage"
   radiation (like our own TV and radar) becomes "thermal noise" after just a
   few dozen light-years.


2. The Signal-to-Noise Ratio (The "Clarity" Problem)

Space is not empty; it is filled with the "hiss" of the Big Bang (Cosmic
Microwave Background), the roar of pulsars, and the crackle of nebulae.


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   *The Filter:* For a signal to be recognized as "artificial," it must be
   significantly stronger than this natural cosmic static.
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   *Dispersion and Scintillation:* As signals travel through the
   Interstellar Medium (ISM)—the thin gas and dust between stars—they get
   "smeared" (dispersion) and "twinkle" (scintillation), much like light
   through a foggy window. This can degrade the data in a signal until it
   is no longer recognizable as a message.


3. The Haystack Problem (The "Search" Problem)

The physics of silence is exacerbated by the "dimensionality" of the
search. To hear a signal, we have to get four variables exactly right
simultaneously:

   1.

   *Space:* We have to point our telescope at the right star.
   2.

   *Frequency:* We have to tune to the right "channel" (out of billions of
   possible frequencies).
   3.

   *Time:* We have to be listening during the exact window the signal is
   passing Earth.
   4.

   *Modulation:* We have to know how the data is encoded (e.g., is it AM,
   FM, digital, or something we haven't invented yet?).

Because the universe is so vast, the statistical likelihood of all four
variables aligning is nearly zero, creating a "physical" barrier of
isolation.
4. The Temporal Offset (The "Synchronicity" Problem)

In the article, Carmona emphasizes that *time is a physical dimension.* Light
has a speed limit ($c$).


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   If a civilization 1,000 light-years away sends a "Hello" today, we won't
   see it for 1,000 years.
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   By the time the signal reaches us, that civilization might have already
   undergone a "technological transition"—moving from loud radio waves to
   quiet lasers or internal fiber optics—or they might have gone extinct.
   -

   The filter suggests that civilizations are like *fireflies in a dark
   forest:* they flash briefly and at different times, so their lights
   never overlap.

5. The Energy Efficiency Paradox (The "Invisibility" Problem)

Physics dictates that the more advanced a technology becomes, the more
efficient it becomes.

   -

   Early radio was "wasteful," broadcasting energy in all directions
   (omnidirectional).
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   Modern Earth is actually getting *quieter* from a cosmic perspective
   because we now use low-power cellular networks, fiber optics, and highly
   directed satellite beams.
   -

   *The Filter Result:* Advanced physics leads to "quiet" technology.
   Therefore, the more "advanced" a civilization is, the harder it is to
   detect through traditional physical means.

Summary

The Physics of Silence filter suggests that the "Great Silence" isn't
because no one is there; it's because *the energy required to overcome the
distances of space is prohibitively high*, and the windows of "loud"
technological development are too short to overlap. We are isolated not by
a lack of neighbors, but by the punishing math of the vacuum.

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