[ExI] Red

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at gmail.com
Thu Jul 9 17:45:54 UTC 2026


Yes.  There is a non euclidean bubble world in your head, which is your
conscious knowledge of the Euclidean world out there.
There is plenty of clear proof that half of this bubble world resides in
each hemisphere, yet somehow we experience it as one unified, infallible,
gestalt experience.

I hope you're not going back to Descartes' idea of the pineal gland in the
center of the brain, which he thought contained everything we consciously
know in one point?

And of course every subcomponent doesn't know this.  In fact if parts of
knowledge, like redness, are experienced with your memory of ripe
strawberries,.., that memory must also be subjectively bound with redness
via some mechanism.
It is possible that qualities in the left hemisphere are bound only to
qualities in the right, without the memories also being subjectively bound
with them.  Lots of this kind of stuff is clearly happening with people who
have congenitally bound brains.  They can "see out their twin's eyes" even
though their memories are different.

There is also evidence that we have subjectively bound
conscious knowledge not bound into our main conscious knowledge.  This
would be a kind of separately conscious gestalt entity residing at a
different location in the brain/hemisphere.  If the subjective binding
mechanism isn't present, it can't be part of an infallible gestalt
experience.


On Thu, Jul 9, 2026 at 11:00 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 9, 2026 at 12:35 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2026 at 5:03 AM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> You can objectively observe your own "yellowness quality" but you are
> the only conscious being in the universe that can do that; meanwhile I have
> my own "yellowness quality" that you will never be able to objectively
> observe.
> >
> > This assertion is obviously falsified by the simple fact that your left
> hemesphere knows infallably, what redness in the right hemesphere is like.
>
> Does it now?  Just because you know it does not mean that every
> subcomponent of you knows it.
>
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