[ExI] Subjective/Objective

John Clark johnkclark at gmail.com
Wed Jul 15 11:47:30 UTC 2026


On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 11:55 AM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

*> One of Dennett's 4 things about qualia says:  "2. – inntrinsic.  They
> are non-relational properties, which do not change depending on the
> experience's relation to other things.*


*I don't entirely agree with Dennett about that because there would be no
subjective or objective difference between a blind person who saw the world
as a uniform unbounded black and a blind person who saw the world as a
uniform unbounded red. They wouldn't even know what "black" or "red" meant
because meaning needs contrast; and the best definition of "nothing" I have
ever seen is infinite unbounded homogeneity.*

* John K Clark  *




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