[ExI] AI 2040

[Brent Allsop]

Hi Keith,
Moving on to a life form superior to humans isn't really going extinct, is
it?



On Thu, Jul 16, 2026 at 2:44 PM Keith Henson via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> 20 years ago, I wrote a story that made the case that the very best
> aligned AI, coupled with human desires, could cause the race to go extinct.
> Nobody has ever refuted the central idea in that story.
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> Keith
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> On Thu, Jul 16, 2026 at 11:18 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> *From:* John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 16 July, 2026 10:54 AM
>> *To:* spike at rainier66.com
>> *Cc:* ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] AI 2040
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>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2026 at 10:29 AM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
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>> *>…This Plan, the one they like the best and the one I hate the most, is
>> to coordinate between the US and China to slow the development of AI…*
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>> *The notion that the US and China are the AI players that matter
>> understates Israel. *
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>> *>…Good point. 14 Israelis have won Nobel prizes and that is a huge
>> number for such a tiny country.  *
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>> *Ja there is that, but specifically in the area of software development,
>> they are towering giants, never mind brains per capita (is there a Nobel
>> prize for software (there aughta be.))  They figured out how to do some
>> software things that the US couldn’t do, even though we yanks threw a a ton
>> of money at it.  In the end, the Israelis won the contract. Their software
>> tech is now part of their Iron Dome.  We built the rockets, the propulsion
>> system, the vehicle controls hardware, the kill vehicle, the kill vehicle
>> controls software, the mobile carrier, then Israelis wrote the system level
>> control software and the simulator.  *
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>> *That’s been over 25 years ago but I remember it like it was yesterday.
>> Oh that was a truly bad ego buster for yank controls engineers.  They
>> whooped our gentile asses in system-level controls software, beat us in
>> every competition in that category.  I was primarily a hardware guy, but I
>> have friends who were most demoralized.  One left the company and went to
>> live in Israel.  He never wrote to us.*
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