[ExI] Legendary Battleship was diamandis commentary

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Thu Jun 4 13:13:52 UTC 2026


The battleship failed to intercept all of the drones - with staging
that was more favorable to the battleship (at least 2 waves, headed
right over the ship) than the missile cruiser (all at once, with
potential to steer around the cruiser).  There are other problems with
the simulation too, but the biggest one is that the battleship did not
fully complete its mission.

Granted, there is something to be said for using something like a CIWS
to counter drones, rather than missiles that are meant to counter
larger, more expensive assets that a CIWS is not effective against.
But missile cruisers can carry a CIWS too.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2026 at 1:05 AM Jason Resch via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> Not entirely relevant to this conversation, but I thought this was interesting:
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> https://youtu.be/pHk7uow62kk
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> This video did a simulation and cost analysis between using a modern destroyer with guided missiles vs. using a WW2 era battleship in drone defense.
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> It cost ~$300,000,000 in missiles to defend against 100 cheap drones, but it only cost ~$5 for the gun-based battleship to do the same.
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> Jason
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> On Wed, Jun 3, 2026, 4:23 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat
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>> >...Reminds me of that tale of a Vietnam-era heavy shore bombardment - not just bombardment of what was on the shore, but essentially of the shore itself - that reportedly got summarized in a headline as, "The New Jersey Sinks an Island".
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>> The concept of bombardment improved continuously until it was no longer needed.  The world is quite unlikely to ever again see big guns used in any significant way.  My hope is that the same fate will obviate nukes as well.  It will be all about precision and software.  A battleship need not be large to do what it needs to do.  But it could have a very large escort vehicle along to draw fire.  We don't know what the naval engineers are doing.  They like it that way.
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