[ExI] robo-rescue

[spike at rainier66.com]

From: John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, 11 June, 2026 1:17 PM
To: spike at rainier66.com
Cc: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Subject: Re: [ExI] robo-rescue

 

 

 

On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 3:55 PM <spike at rainier66.com <mailto:spike at rainier66.com> > wrote:

 

> How do we know it is huge 

 

The Navy says a Trump class battleship will displace between 35,000 and 41,000 tons…

 

Do you presume they are going to tell you they are really doing?

 

 

> or how much it costs?

 

>…The Navy says a Trump class battleship will cost between $17.4 billion and $22 billion…

 

Again John do you presume they are going to tell us what they are really doing?

 

>…And the US military is, to put it politely, not well known for underestimating its cost estimates. 

 

>  It might be that battleship is the size of a city bus

 

 >…41,000 tons is pretty big for a city bus…

 

Of course.  But we don’t know how much it displaces.  We don’t know its dimensions or its cost.  The Navy will offer a number, but they won’t tell us what they are doing, for that would also tell our enemies, and inform countermeasures.

 

> and costs less than the missile sent against it, 

 

>…And pigs might fly…

 

We don’t even know if a missile was involved in the Apache crash.  I would suspect not, for the pilots were not damaged.  You called out $20k.  I know of no guided missiles that come in at that miniscule rate.  Do you?  Do share.  

 

> but emits a radar signature that looks like a traditional battleship.

 

>…Why in the hell would the US military want to ENHANCE the radar cross-section of its warships or planes?! 

 

John K Clark

 

They enhance radar cross section to draw fire John.  Decoys emit radar signals to look like a big beautiful battleship, to draw fire from missiles that cost more than the “battleship.”  This has the secondary benefit of revealing the origin of the counterfire.  Sheesh, John, you really need to drop your confidence level in your posts.  There are plenty of things about military operations you aren’t getting.  Do try harder sir.

 

spike 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com <mailto:johnkclark at gmail.com> > 
Subject: Re: [ExI] robo-rescue

 

>…It's interesting that a drone boat was able to rescue the crew of a helicopter, but I think it's even more interesting that a $20,000 Iranian drone was able to knock a AH-64 Apache attack helicopter out of the air which cost between 52 and 100 million dollars depending on how many bells and whistles it had. This should make anybody think twice before they decide to build a huge "Trump class" battleship. 

 

John K Clark

 

 

 

 

 

How do we know it is huge or how much it costs?  It might be that battleship is the size of a city bus and costs less than the missile sent against it, but emits a radar signature that looks like a traditional battleship.

 

spike

 

 

 

 

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